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== Upgrading the wiki tonight ==<br />
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Hi everyone, I'll be upgrading the wiki shortly. The database will be in readonly mode, and may go offline entirely for a while. [[User:John Vandenberg|John Vandenberg]] 20:27, 1 July 2013 (EST)<br />
: It is back up. Let me know if there are problems. [[User:John Vandenberg|John Vandenberg]] ([[User talk:John Vandenberg|talk]]) 01:05, 2 July 2013 (EST)<br />
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== spring ==<br />
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has sprung. Maybe the billabong will fill in due course? [[User:Privatemusings|Privatemusings]] ([[User talk:Privatemusings|talk]]) 19:37, 3 September 2013 (EST)<br />
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== Mailing List Moderation ==<br />
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Hi All,<br />
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This is just a public note to advise that the members' private mailing list is now on moderation and should only be used for confidential matters. For public reference, below is the text of the message that was sent to subscribers to the private list:<br />
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:Hi everyone,<br />
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:Over the weekend, our private mailing list was configured to enable moderation. All posts to this list (yes, even mine) are now moderated by the committee. This is in response to the occasional user conduct issues on the private list, and the feedback from members to the proposal to suspend the mailing list.[1]<br />
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:I've have been drafting a code of conduct[2], and these principles will be used as the de facto guidelines for moderation until we have an approved code of conduct. I encourage feedback on the wiki on this code so that we can get as close to something everyone is happy with as we can.<br />
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:Most discussions should be held on the open list 'wikimediaau-l'. Please subscribe to it if you haven't already.<br />
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:https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l<br />
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:The private mailing list is only to be used for matters that require privacy or confidentiality.<br />
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:The private mailing list is intended to be a safe space where participants are treated with respect and are not afraid to venture their opinions. Emails that contain insults, abusive behaviour and bad faith will not be forwarded to the rest of the membership.<br />
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:Please keep in mind that the committee can't guarantee that messages sent to this private mailing list will not be forwarded on by some subscriber outside of this list. It is therefore inadvisable to send any highly sensitive information to the list. Please also keep in mind that the moderators are all volunteers, so if your message isn't posted immediately don't fret; it may just mean that we're all either asleep, at work, or otherwise unavailable.<br />
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:Regards,<br />
:Craig Franklin<br />
:President - Wikimedia Australia<br />
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:1. http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Proposal_talk:Suspending_the_private_mailing_list<br />
:2. http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Proposal:Suspending_the_private_mailing_list/Proposed_Code_of_Conduct<br />
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[[User:Lankiveil|Lankiveil]] ([[User talk:Lankiveil|talk]]) 23:25, 1 October 2013 (EST).<br />
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== Future events page? ==<br />
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What's the [[Future events]] page for, compared to [[Upcoming events]]? (By the way, I've just merged the {{tl|Events}} template with [[Upcoming events]] and [[Past events]]; hope that's okay!) —[[User:Samwilson|Sam Wilson]] ([[User talk:Samwilson|talk]]) 10:27, 2 October 2013 (EST)<br />
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== Double login (still) required ==<br />
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This was [[Billabong/Archive 2#double log in required|mentioned]] a a while ago, but it seems to still be happening (to me at least). Just wondering if anyone could look into it? It should just be a matter of deciding which (with or without <code>www</code>, I'm assuming the former as that's what <nowiki>{{SERVER}}</nowiki> is returning) domain is to be used, and redirecting the unused one to the used one. Thanks! [[User:Samwilson|Sam Wilson]] ([[User talk:Samwilson|talk]]) 10:10, 18 March 2014 (EST)<br />
:Sorry I didnt fix it back then. I think [[user:Bilby]] is the only active sysadmin now. [[User:John Vandenberg|John Vandenberg]] ([[User talk:John Vandenberg|talk]]) 14:13, 19 March 2014 (EST)</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=File:Wikimedia_Paralympic_history_project.pdf&diff=11181File:Wikimedia Paralympic history project.pdf2014-01-12T01:56:07Z<p>John Vandenberg: Creative Commons Attribution 3.0</p>
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<div>Creative Commons Attribution 3.0</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=File:HOPAU-at-London-Paralympics.pdf&diff=11179File:HOPAU-at-London-Paralympics.pdf2014-01-07T21:00:02Z<p>John Vandenberg: License: CC-BY
Author: Laura Hale
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http://ozziesport.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/HOPAU-at-London-Paralympics.pdf</p>
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<div>License: CC-BY<br />
Author: Laura Hale<br />
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http://ozziesport.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/HOPAU-at-London-Paralympics.pdf</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=File:LP130101031_Professor_Macdonald_Letter.pdf&diff=11177File:LP130101031 Professor Macdonald Letter.pdf2014-01-07T20:28:26Z<p>John Vandenberg: Copyright Professor Macdonald.
CC-BY-SA</p>
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<div>Copyright Professor Macdonald.<br />
CC-BY-SA</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=File:LP130101031_UQ_Letter.pdf&diff=11175File:LP130101031 UQ Letter.pdf2014-01-07T20:26:46Z<p>John Vandenberg: Copyright UQ</p>
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<div>Copyright UQ</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=File:LP130101031_Partners_Letter.pdf&diff=11173File:LP130101031 Partners Letter.pdf2014-01-07T20:26:03Z<p>John Vandenberg: Copyright Commonwealth</p>
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<div>Copyright Commonwealth</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=File:HOPAU_LP_Federal_Government_Letter.pdf&diff=11171File:HOPAU LP Federal Government Letter.pdf2014-01-07T20:23:48Z<p>John Vandenberg: John Vandenberg moved page File:HOPAU LP Federal Government Letter.pdf to File:LP130101031 Federal Government Letter.pdf: naming</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[File:LP130101031 Federal Government Letter.pdf]]</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=File:LP130101031_Federal_Government_Letter.pdf&diff=11169File:LP130101031 Federal Government Letter.pdf2014-01-07T20:23:48Z<p>John Vandenberg: John Vandenberg moved page File:HOPAU LP Federal Government Letter.pdf to File:LP130101031 Federal Government Letter.pdf: naming</p>
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<div>Copyright Commonwealth</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=File:LP130101031_Federal_Government_Letter.pdf&diff=11167File:LP130101031 Federal Government Letter.pdf2014-01-07T20:17:11Z<p>John Vandenberg: Copyright Commonwealth</p>
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<div>Copyright Commonwealth</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=Upcoming_events&diff=11165Upcoming events2014-01-06T10:39:24Z<p>John Vandenberg: add date for Feb meeting per public mailing list</p>
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* '''Sunday 12th January'''<!-- (first Sunday of every month) -->: Wikimedia Australia holds a '''public [[meeting]]''', with online participation in the Australian [[IRC]] channel {{irc|wikimedia-au}}. Everyone is welcome to join and take part in discussions related to the chapter. Time: [[Local Time|4pm AEDST]]<br />
* '''1st February''' [[w:Wikipedia:Meetup/Perth/13|Perth meetup]] at the SLWA</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=Board&diff=11163Board2014-01-06T10:27:45Z<p>John Vandenberg: link usernames for Michael and Pru</p>
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<div>[[File:Steven Zhang 2013.jpg|thumb|140px|Steven Zhang, President]]<br />
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Wikimedia Australia is run by a committee that is elected each year at the [[AGM|Annual General Meeting]]. The committee comprises four office-bearers and four "ordinary" members.<br />
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The current committee was elected on 23 November 2012 at the [[Meeting:2013 AGM|2013–14 AGM]].<br />
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;President<br />
[[User:Steven Zhang|Steven Zhang]] is from Melbourne and has been editing Wikimedia projects for nearly six years. On wiki, most of his activities include dispute resolution and mediation, including improving processes and helping out at the dispute resolution noticeboard, which he created. He has previously worked for the Wikimedia Foundation as a research fellow, and volunteers on the Wikimedia Grantmaking Advisory and Individual Engagement Grant committees.<br />
;Vice-President<br />
[[File:Gideon-33.jpg|thumb|Gideon]]<br />
[[User:Gnangarra|Gideon Digby]] is a photographer from Perth and has been editing since 2005. Created the Quality image process on Commons in 2006 to recognise and improve the work of photographers providing image to Wikimedia projects. Additionally Gideon has been running editing workshops in Western Australian since 2010, and been leading the development of WikiTown projects like Freopeda.<br />
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;Secretary<br />
[[User:Andrew Owens|Andrew Owens]] is from Perth and has been editing since 2006, writing on Western Australian topics as well as politics, local government and urban geography. He is also secretary of the Mathematics Association of WA, and ran Wiki Takes Joondalup in late 2011.<br />
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;Treasurer <br />
[[User:MichaelBillington|Michael Billington]]<br />
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;Ordinary members<br />
[[User:Chuq|Charles Gregory]] has been editing the English Wikipedia since 2002, particularly focused on articles linked to his home state of Tasmania. He is involved in Wikimedia Hobart events, including meetups and outreach/training work. He is the chapter's representative on the Wikimedia Chapters Association Council, and also handles the chapter's social media channels.<br />
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[[User:Pru.mitchell|Pru Mitchell]]<br />
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[[User:Bidgee|Robert Myers]] is from the Riverina region of New South Wales and has been contributing to English Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons for over six years. Most of his time is spent on taking and uploading photographs for Wikimedia Commons, which are uploaded under a free-use license. <br />
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==Contact==<br />
You can write to the committee at ''{{nospam|committee|wikimedia.org.au}}''.<br />
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Any committee member can be individually contacted at ''{{nospam|firstname.lastname|wikimedia.org.au}}'' (e.g. for ''Jane Doe'', email ''{{nospam|jane.doe|wikimedia.org.au}}'').<br />
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==History of the committee==<br />
Official observers of the committee are in ''italics''. <br />
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|-<br />
!Term<br />
!Time in office<br />
!President<br />
!Vice President<br />
!Secretary<br />
!Treasurer<br />
!Ordinary Members <br />
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! 6<br />
| 23 November 2013 – present<ref>committee structure changed to 4 officers and 4 general members at the 2012 AGM</ref><br />
|[[User:Steven Zhang|Steven Zhang]]<br />
|[[User:Gnangarra|Gideon Digby]]<br />
|[[User:Andrew Owens|Andrew Owens]]<br />
|Michael Billington<ref>The AGM was held on 23 November 2013, but there was no nominee for Treasurer and the position was declared vacant. On 4 December 2013, Michael Billington was co-opted to fill the role.</ref><br />
|[[User:Bidgee|Robert Myers]], Pru Mitchell, [[User:Chuq|Charles Gregory]], ''Craig Franklin'', ''Kerry Raymond'' <br />
|-<br />
! rowspan=3 | 5<br />
|18 July – 23 November 2013<br />
|[[User:Lankiveil|Craig Franklin]]<br />
|[[User:Kerry Raymond|Kerry Raymond]]<br />
|[[User:Graham87|Graham Pearce]]<br />
|[[User:John Vandenberg|John Vandenberg]]<br />
|Steven Zhang, ''Charles Gregory''<br />
|-<br />
|17 March – 18 July 2013<br />
|Craig Franklin<br />
|''vacant''<br />
|Graham Pearce<br />
|John Vandenberg<br />
|Kerry Raymond, Steven Zhang, ''Charles Gregory''<br />
|-<br />
|25 November 2012 – 17 March 2013<br />
|John Vandenberg<br />
|Graham Pearce<br />
|Charles Gregory<br />
|Craig Franklin<br />
|Kerry Raymond, Steven Zhang<br />
|-<br />
! rowspan=2 | 4<br />
|23 October – 25 November 2012<br />
|John Vandenberg<br />
|[[User:LauraHale|Laura Hale]]<br />
|Charles Gregory<br />
|Craig Franklin<br />
|Graham Pearce<br />
|-<br />
|9 October 2011 – 23 October 2012<br />
|John Vandenberg<br />
|Laura Hale<br />
|[[user:Austwithlove|Anne Frazer]]<br />
|Craig Franklin<br />
|Charles Gregory, Graham Pearce<br />
|-<br />
! rowspan=2 | 3<br />
|16 April – 9 October 2011<br />
|John Vandenberg<br />
|[[user:Bilby|Adam Jenkins]]<br />
|Anne Frazer<br />
|Craig Franklin<br />
|Andrew Owens, Charles Gregory<br />
|-<br />
|9 September 2010 – 16 April 2011<br />
|John Vandenberg<br />
|Adam Jenkins<br />
|[[user:Sarah|Sarah Ewart]]<br />
|Craig Franklin<br />
|Andrew Owens, Charles Gregory<br />
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! rowspan=3 | 2<br />
|26 May – 19 September 2010<br />
|[[user:VirtualSteve|Steve Peters]]<br />
|[[user:Witty lama|Liam Wyatt]]<br />
|Sarah Ewart<br />
|[[user:Bduke|Brian Salter-Duke]]<br />
|Andrew Owens<br />
|-<br />
|9–26 May 2010<br />
|Steve Peters<br />
|Liam Wyatt<br />
|Sarah Ewart<br />
|Steve Peters<br />
|Andrew Owens, Brian Salter-Duke<br />
|-<br />
|29 November 2009 – 8 May 2010<br />
|[[user:Pfctdayelise|Brianna Laugher]]<br />
|Liam Wyatt<br />
|Sarah Ewart<br />
|Steve Peters<br />
|Andrew Owens, Brian Salter-Duke<br />
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! 1<br />
|11 January – 29 November 2009<br />
|Brianna Laugher<br />
|Liam Wyatt<br />
|Sarah Ewart<br />
|Brian Salter-Duke<br />
|[[User:Cartman02au|Nathan Carter]], John Vandenberg<br />
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! Interim<br />
| 20 May 2008 – 11 January 2009<br />
|colspan="5"|[[user:Thebainer |Stephen Bain]], [[user:Daniel |Daniel Bryant]], Nathan Carter, Sarah Ewart, Charles Gregory, Brianna Laugher, John Vandenberg <br />
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==See also==<br />
* [[Meetings]]<br />
* [[Resolutions]]<br />
* [[AGM]]<br />
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[[Category:Wikimedia Australia organisation]]</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=User:John_Vandenberg&diff=11153User:John Vandenberg2013-12-15T15:09:14Z<p>John Vandenberg: remove president email address; I havent been the president since March 2013 per Committee</p>
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'''John Vandenberg''', president of Wikimedia Australia in the 2010-2013 [[committee]]s, and treasurer 17 March-23 November 2013.<br />
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[[File:Creative_Commons_Indonesia_Launching_2012.JPG|thumb|John & Siska, Creative Commons Asia-Pacific Conference 2012.]]<br />
John Vandenberg manages data analysis and strategy in the Research Services Directorate at the [[w:University of New England (Australia)|University of New England]] in regional New South Wales, where he has been employed since October 2008. John has a graduate diploma from the Queensland University of Technology, and has worked as a network and software engineer as well as lecturing in IT at TAFE and private colleges.<br />
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Before becoming involved in Wikimedia, John was an open-source developer. He has contributed to projects such as [[w:Mozilla|Mozilla]] web browser, [[w:Apache Portable Runtime|Apache Portable Runtime]], [[w:Open Office|Open Office]], [[w:Bugzilla|Bugzilla]], and [[w:quilt (software)|quilt]]. In 2006 he shifted focus from open source to open content, becoming an administrator on the English Wikipedia, [[w:Wikisource|Wikisource]] and [[w:Wikimedia Commons|Wikimedia Commons]] projects by 2008. He served on the interim and inaugural Wikimedia Australia committee from May 2008–November 2009, and on the [[w:Arbitration Committee (English Wikipedia)|English Wikipedia Arbitration Committee]] of 2009 and 2011. <br />
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In 2012 John married [http://wikimedia.or.id/wiki/Siska_Doviana Siska Doviana] (Chair of Wikimedia Indonesia).<br />
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:{{email|jayvdb|gmail.com}}<br />
:[http://www.linkedin.com/in/jayvdb linkedin: jayvdb]<br />
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;Projects:<br />
* [[wikipedia:User:Jayvdb|English Wikipedia]] (administrator)<br />
* [[wikisource:User:Jayvdb|English]], [[wikisource:la:User:Jayvdb|Latin]] and [[oldwikisource:User:Jayvdb|Multilingual Wikisource]] (administrator)<br />
* [[commons:User:Jayvdb|Wikimedia Commons]] (administrator)<br />
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I've also written four [[wikinews:User:Jayvdb|English Wikinews bulletins]], two relating to Australian topics:<br />
* [[wikinews:Victoria power grid collapses due to spot fires|Victoria power grid collapses due to spot fires]] (January 16, 2007)<br />
* [[wikinews:eBay Australia to only permit payment via PayPal|eBay Australia to only permit payment via PayPal]] (April 12, 2008)</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=Proposal:UQ_sports_history_linkage&diff=11151Proposal:UQ sports history linkage2013-12-15T06:12:31Z<p>John Vandenberg: /* Media */ add Kate Lundy blog post</p>
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<div>{{proposal|member1=John Vandenberg|member2=Graham Pearce|status=approved}}<br />
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This proposal is for ARC linkage grant with UQ and Australian Paralympic Committee.<br />
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== Background ==<br />
Wikimedia Australia has been informally involved in a project called "History of the Paralympic movement in Australia" ([[outreach:HOPAU|HOPAU]]).[http://www.hopau.paralympic.org.au/]<br />
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== Project ==<br />
This proposal is for Wikimedia Australia to become formally involved in this project by way of an ARC linkage grant with University of Queensland (UQ) and Australian Paralympic Committee (APC). UQ will be the administrating institution and APC as co-partner.<br />
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The project will be over three years commencing after the result in announced in June 2013. Wikimedia Australia expects to contribute $25,000 in the 2013 calendar year.<br />
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The application information is available [[/application|here]].<br />
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==Budget==<br />
The budget is available at [[/budget|here]].<br />
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==Media==<br />
=== Before linkage approved ===<br />
* [http://www.katelundy.com.au/2012/08/31/capturing-paralympic-history/ "Capturing Paralympic history"], Senator [[w:Kate Lundy|Kate Lundy]]<br />
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=== After linkage approved ===<br />
* [[w:Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-07-03/News_and_notes#In_brief]]<br />
* [http://www.paralympic.org.au/news/paralympic-history-project-secures-grant APC press release]<br />
* [http://www.uq.edu.au/news/?article=26747 UQ News]<br />
* [http://www.insidethegames.biz/paralympics/1016504-australian-paralympic-history-project-secures-funding insidethegames.biz]</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=User:John_Vandenberg&diff=10989User:John Vandenberg2013-11-26T02:29:19Z<p>John Vandenberg: update</p>
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'''John Vandenberg''', president of Wikimedia Australia in the 2010-2013 [[committee]]s, and treasurer 17 March-23 November 2013.<br />
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[[File:Creative_Commons_Indonesia_Launching_2012.JPG|thumb|John & Siska, Creative Commons Asia-Pacific Conference 2012.]]<br />
John Vandenberg manages data analysis and strategy in the Research Services Directorate at the [[w:University of New England (Australia)|University of New England]] in regional New South Wales, where he has been employed since October 2008. John has a graduate diploma from the Queensland University of Technology, and has worked as a network and software engineer as well as lecturing in IT at TAFE and private colleges.<br />
<br />
Before becoming involved in Wikimedia, John was an open-source developer. He has contributed to projects such as [[w:Mozilla|Mozilla]] web browser, [[w:Apache Portable Runtime|Apache Portable Runtime]], [[w:Open Office|Open Office]], [[w:Bugzilla|Bugzilla]], and [[w:quilt (software)|quilt]]. In 2006 he shifted focus from open source to open content, becoming an administrator on the English Wikipedia, [[w:Wikisource|Wikisource]] and [[w:Wikimedia Commons|Wikimedia Commons]] projects by 2008. He served on the interim and inaugural Wikimedia Australia committee from May 2008–November 2009, and on the [[w:Arbitration Committee (English Wikipedia)|English Wikipedia Arbitration Committee]] of 2009 and 2011. <br />
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In 2012 John married [http://wikimedia.or.id/wiki/Siska_Doviana Siska Doviana] (Chair of Wikimedia Indonesia).<br />
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;Contact:<br />
:{{email|president}}<br />
:{{email|john.vandenberg}}<br />
:{{email|jayvdb|gmail.com}}<br />
:[http://www.linkedin.com/in/jayvdb linkedin: jayvdb]<br />
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;Projects:<br />
* [[wikipedia:User:Jayvdb|English Wikipedia]] (administrator)<br />
* [[wikisource:User:Jayvdb|English]], [[wikisource:la:User:Jayvdb|Latin]] and [[oldwikisource:User:Jayvdb|Multilingual Wikisource]] (administrator)<br />
* [[commons:User:Jayvdb|Wikimedia Commons]] (administrator)<br />
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I've also written four [[wikinews:User:Jayvdb|English Wikinews bulletins]], two relating to Australian topics:<br />
* [[wikinews:Victoria power grid collapses due to spot fires|Victoria power grid collapses due to spot fires]] (January 16, 2007)<br />
* [[wikinews:eBay Australia to only permit payment via PayPal|eBay Australia to only permit payment via PayPal]] (April 12, 2008)</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=Proposal:UQ_sports_history_linkage&diff=10847Proposal:UQ sports history linkage2013-11-08T09:49:28Z<p>John Vandenberg: /* Media */ +3</p>
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<div>{{proposal|member1=John Vandenberg|member2=Graham Pearce|status=approved}}<br />
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This proposal is for ARC linkage grant with UQ and Australian Paralympic Committee.<br />
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== Background ==<br />
Wikimedia Australia has been informally involved in a project called "History of the Paralympic movement in Australia" ([[outreach:HOPAU|HOPAU]]).[http://www.hopau.paralympic.org.au/]<br />
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== Project ==<br />
This proposal is for Wikimedia Australia to become formally involved in this project by way of an ARC linkage grant with University of Queensland (UQ) and Australian Paralympic Committee (APC). UQ will be the administrating institution and APC as co-partner.<br />
<br />
The project will be over three years commencing after the result in announced in June 2013. Wikimedia Australia expects to contribute $25,000 in the 2013 calendar year.<br />
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The application information is available [[/application|here]].<br />
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==Budget==<br />
The budget is available at [[/budget|here]].<br />
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==Media==<br />
* [[w:Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-07-03/News_and_notes#In_brief]]<br />
* [http://www.paralympic.org.au/news/paralympic-history-project-secures-grant APC press release]<br />
* [http://www.uq.edu.au/news/?article=26747 UQ News]<br />
* [http://www.insidethegames.biz/paralympics/1016504-australian-paralympic-history-project-secures-funding insidethegames.biz]</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=Talk:Contact&diff=10807Talk:Contact2013-10-20T22:38:48Z<p>John Vandenberg: reply to Kerry</p>
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<div>The education mailing list link gave me a 404 'Not Found - The requested URL /mailman/listinfo/education_lists.wikimedia.org.au was not found on this server.' - so I've removed it for now. Dunno if this is intentional, or a bungle - hence this note. [[User:Privatemusings|Privatemusings]] 13:54, 21 March 2011 (EST)<br />
:I got 'The mailing list archives are currently offline. ' for the general archive link too - so I've removed that for now as well... [[User:Privatemusings|Privatemusings]] 13:55, 21 March 2011 (EST)<br />
::Thank you! (bringing them online is on my todo list..) [[User:John Vandenberg|John Vandenberg]] 20:18, 21 March 2011 (EST)<br />
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Hi there - the membership email address linked to from the contents page is incorrect. [[User:Kerry Kilner|Kerry Kilner]] ([[User talk:Kerry Kilner|talk]]) 14:53, 15 October 2013 (EST)<br />
:Hi Kerry, I haven't understood the problem. Last night I checked that membership@wikimedia.org.au is working correctly. An email sent to that address will be routed to the Secretary, who is currently responsible for membership inquiries. [[User:John Vandenberg|John Vandenberg]] ([[User talk:John Vandenberg|talk]]) 09:38, 21 October 2013 (EST)</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jan_Ainali_(WMSE)&diff=10803User talk:Jan Ainali (WMSE)2013-10-20T07:33:36Z<p>John Vandenberg: /* Welcome */ new section</p>
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<div>== Welcome ==<br />
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Hi Jan, welcome to our wiki. [[User:John Vandenberg|John Vandenberg]] ([[User talk:John Vandenberg|talk]]) 18:33, 20 October 2013 (EST)</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=Meeting_talk:2013_SGM&diff=10801Meeting talk:2013 SGM2013-10-19T23:53:58Z<p>John Vandenberg: /* Inspection of register by any member */ new section</p>
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== Rename ==<br />
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Can we rename this page to "meeting:2013 SGM" so it is consistent with all the other AGM and SGM pages? [[User:John Vandenberg|John Vandenberg]] ([[User talk:John Vandenberg|talk]]) 13:31, 13 October 2013 (EST)<br />
:Hmm, I didn't notice that [[2011 SGM]] is just a redirect. Will hitting "move" move the subpages as well? I would like to avoid creating a bigger mess by trying to fix it :p. [[User:Lankiveil|Lankiveil]] ([[User talk:Lankiveil|talk]]) 21:34, 17 October 2013 (EST).<br />
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Hi there - there's an error on the contacts page https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l - it has an incorrect member email address. Thought I'd draw it to your attention here as well as on the contacts page. It makes it difficult if someone's trying to get in touch with WMAU... [[User:Kerry Kilner|Kerry Kilner]] ([[User talk:Kerry Kilner|talk]]) 14:54, 15 October 2013 (EST)<br />
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== Inspection of register by any member ==<br />
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We can restrict digital copies of the register, however we cant restrict 'in person inspection'. [[User:John Vandenberg|John Vandenberg]] ([[User talk:John Vandenberg|talk]]) 10:53, 20 October 2013 (EST)</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=Meeting:2013_SGM&diff=10799Meeting:2013 SGM2013-10-19T23:50:52Z<p>John Vandenberg: subpage syntax</p>
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<div>A '''[[General Meeting|Special General Meeting]]''' of Wikimedia Australia, Inc.&reg; will be held on Sunday 20th October 2013. This special general meeting has convened by the committee under section 10(3) of our [[Rules]].<br />
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The scope of the meeting is to consider a number of changes to the rules that have been put forward by members.<br />
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The notice was sent out to members on 26 September, 2013.<br />
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==Documents==<br />
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* [http://www.wikimedia.org.au/w/images/c/c2/Special_Resolutions_-_SGM_20_October_2013.pdf List of Special Resolutions]<br />
* [[/26 September Email|Email of 26 September]]<br />
* [[/Proxy form|Proxy form]]<br />
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==Agenda==<br />
#Apologies, attendance<br />
#Proposed Rule Changes<br />
##Changes for Act Compliance (if 2.1 fails, then no further changes to be voted on)<br />
##Removal of power to fine <br />
##Email address in membership register<br />
##Provision of copies of the membership register<br />
##Definition of the word "Secretary"<br />
##Indirect election of officers and two year terms<br />
###Indirect election of officers, and two year terms (Option One)<br />
###Indirect election of officers, and two year terms (Option Two) (only if 2.6.1 fails)<br />
##Email notice of general meetings</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=Talk:2013_SGM&diff=10797Talk:2013 SGM2013-10-19T23:34:51Z<p>John Vandenberg: John Vandenberg moved page Talk:2013 SGM to Meeting talk:2013 SGM: per talk</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[Meeting talk:2013 SGM]]</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=Meeting_talk:2013_SGM&diff=10795Meeting talk:2013 SGM2013-10-19T23:34:51Z<p>John Vandenberg: John Vandenberg moved page Talk:2013 SGM to Meeting talk:2013 SGM: per talk</p>
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== Rename ==<br />
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Can we rename this page to "meeting:2013 SGM" so it is consistent with all the other AGM and SGM pages? [[User:John Vandenberg|John Vandenberg]] ([[User talk:John Vandenberg|talk]]) 13:31, 13 October 2013 (EST)<br />
:Hmm, I didn't notice that [[2011 SGM]] is just a redirect. Will hitting "move" move the subpages as well? I would like to avoid creating a bigger mess by trying to fix it :p. [[User:Lankiveil|Lankiveil]] ([[User talk:Lankiveil|talk]]) 21:34, 17 October 2013 (EST).<br />
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Hi there - there's an error on the contacts page https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l - it has an incorrect member email address. Thought I'd draw it to your attention here as well as on the contacts page. It makes it difficult if someone's trying to get in touch with WMAU... [[User:Kerry Kilner|Kerry Kilner]] ([[User talk:Kerry Kilner|talk]]) 14:54, 15 October 2013 (EST)</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=2013_SGM/Proxy_form&diff=107932013 SGM/Proxy form2013-10-19T23:34:51Z<p>John Vandenberg: John Vandenberg moved page 2013 SGM/Proxy form to Meeting:2013 SGM/Proxy form: per talk</p>
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<div>'''Form of Appointment of Proxy.'''<br />
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I,<br />
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being a member of Wikimedia Australia Inc.<br />
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appoint<br />
:::::(name or role of proxy holder)[1]<br />
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also being a member of that Incorporated Association, as my proxy to vote on my behalf at the Special General Meeting of the Association to be held on Sunday 20 October 2013 and at any adjournment of that meeting.<br />
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''Either:''<br />
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My proxy is authorised to act on their own discretion.<br />
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''Or:''<br />
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My proxy is authorised to vote as specified for the following resolution(s):<br />
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Signed<br />
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# You may nominate a member by name or by role (for example, the chair or the secretary etc).<br />
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Note: A proxy vote may only be given to a person who, at the time of the meeting, is a current financial member of Wikimedia Australia.<br />
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[[Category:Forms|Proxy, 2013 SGM]]</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=2013_SGM/26_September_Email&diff=107892013 SGM/26 September Email2013-10-19T23:34:51Z<p>John Vandenberg: John Vandenberg moved page 2013 SGM/26 September Email to Meeting:2013 SGM/26 September Email: per talk</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[Meeting:2013 SGM/26 September Email]]</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=Meeting:2013_SGM/26_September_Email&diff=10787Meeting:2013 SGM/26 September Email2013-10-19T23:34:51Z<p>John Vandenberg: John Vandenberg moved page 2013 SGM/26 September Email to Meeting:2013 SGM/26 September Email: per talk</p>
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<div>''The below email was sent to all members of the chapter on 26 September 2013.''<br />
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:Dear Member,<br />
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:This letter is to advise that the management committee of Wikimedia Australia Inc. has resolved to call a Special General Meeting of the Association, to take place at 4pm Melbourne time, in the IRC channel #wikimedia-au-sgm, on Sunday the 20th of October, 2013. The purpose of this meeting is to consider a number of changes to the rules of the Association that have been requested by its members. <br />
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:For those who have chosen to receive notice of general meetings by email, this email and the documents linked to within constitute that notice. For those who have not chosen to receive notice, this email is for your information only and notice will be sent to the mailing address listed on the membership register.<br />
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:As a financial member of the Association, you are entitled to attend and vote at this meeting. Members who wish to attend are required to advise the Secretary (secretary@wikimedia.org.au) of their intended IRC username no later than 24 hours before the start of the meeting.<br />
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:Members who are unable to attend may appoint another member as a proxy using the proxy form located at http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/2013_SGM/Proxy_form, and emailing it to the Secretary at the above email address. Please note that proxy forms must be received no later than 24 hours before the start of the meeting.<br />
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:A list of special resolutions, as required by the rules and the act, can be found on the Wikimedia Australia website at the following URL: <br />
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:http://www.wikimedia.org.au/w/images/c/c2/Special_Resolutions_-_SGM_20_October_2013.pdf<br />
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:On behalf of the Wikimedia Australia committee,<br />
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:Craig Franklin<br />
:Wikimedia Australia</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=2013_SGM&diff=107852013 SGM2013-10-19T23:34:50Z<p>John Vandenberg: John Vandenberg moved page 2013 SGM to Meeting:2013 SGM: per talk</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[Meeting:2013 SGM]]</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=Meeting:2013_SGM&diff=10783Meeting:2013 SGM2013-10-19T23:34:50Z<p>John Vandenberg: John Vandenberg moved page 2013 SGM to Meeting:2013 SGM: per talk</p>
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<div>A '''[[General Meeting|Special General Meeting]]''' of Wikimedia Australia, Inc.&reg; will be held on Sunday 20th October 2013. This special general meeting has convened by the committee under section 10(3) of our [[Rules]].<br />
<br />
The scope of the meeting is to consider a number of changes to the rules that have been put forward by members.<br />
<br />
The notice was sent out to members on 26 September, 2013.<br />
<br />
==Documents==<br />
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* [http://www.wikimedia.org.au/w/images/c/c2/Special_Resolutions_-_SGM_20_October_2013.pdf List of Special Resolutions]<br />
* [[2013 SGM/26 September Email|Email of 26 September]]<br />
* [[2013 SGM/Proxy form|Proxy form]]<br />
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==Agenda==<br />
#Apologies, attendance<br />
#Proposed Rule Changes<br />
##Changes for Act Compliance (if 2.1 fails, then no further changes to be voted on)<br />
##Removal of power to fine <br />
##Email address in membership register<br />
##Provision of copies of the membership register<br />
##Definition of the word "Secretary"<br />
##Indirect election of officers and two year terms<br />
###Indirect election of officers, and two year terms (Option One)<br />
###Indirect election of officers, and two year terms (Option Two) (only if 2.6.1 fails)<br />
##Email notice of general meetings</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=Meeting_talk:2013_SGM&diff=10741Meeting talk:2013 SGM2013-10-13T02:31:34Z<p>John Vandenberg: /* Rename */ new section</p>
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== Rename ==<br />
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Can we rename this page to "meeting:2013 SGM" so it is consistent with all the other AGM and SGM pages? [[User:John Vandenberg|John Vandenberg]] ([[User talk:John Vandenberg|talk]]) 13:31, 13 October 2013 (EST)</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=User:Lankiveil/Proposal:Motion_to_remove_Rule_7(1)(a)_at_the_next_AGM&diff=10641User:Lankiveil/Proposal:Motion to remove Rule 7(1)(a) at the next AGM2013-09-15T06:02:55Z<p>John Vandenberg: John Vandenberg moved page User:Lankiveil/Proposal:Motion to remove Rule 7(1)(a) at the next AGM to Proposal:Motion to remove Rule 7(1)(a) at the next AGM</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[Proposal:Motion to remove Rule 7(1)(a) at the next AGM]]</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=Proposal:Motion_to_remove_Rule_7(1)(a)_at_the_next_AGM&diff=10639Proposal:Motion to remove Rule 7(1)(a) at the next AGM2013-09-15T06:02:54Z<p>John Vandenberg: John Vandenberg moved page User:Lankiveil/Proposal:Motion to remove Rule 7(1)(a) at the next AGM to Proposal:Motion to remove Rule 7(1)(a) at the next AGM</p>
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<div>{{proposal|member1=Lankiveil|member2=John Vandenberg}}<br />
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This is a proposal to place an item on the agenda of the next Annual General Meeting (AGM) to modify the rules of the association to remove the ability of the management committee to fine members as part of the discipline process.<br />
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==Background==<br />
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The association’s rules are based upon the “model rules” provided by Consumer Affairs Victoria (CAV) at the time of the association’s incorporation. Successive changes have been by members to the rules since that time. <br />
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As it currently stands, the provisions of Rule 7(1)(a) allow for the committee to penalise a member who has “''refused or neglected to comply with these Rules, or has been guilty of conduct unbecoming a member or prejudicial to the interests of the Association,''” to “''fine that member an amount not exceeding $500.''” This provision is from the original model rules, and has not to date been invoked. There is a lengthy appeals process if any fine is levied, and it is not clear whether the member can escape the fine by simply resigning, nor what the consequences are for refusing to pay.<br />
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==Resolution==<br />
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It is proposed to include the following motion at the next Annual General Meeting:<br />
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:That the text of Rule 7(1)(a), allowing the committee to fine members amounts up to $500, be removed from the rules of association.<br />
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As this motion involves a change to the rules, a 75% majority would need to vote in favour of it at an Annual General Meeting in order for the rule change to take effect.<br />
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==Notes==<br />
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Supporting this proposal should not necessarily be interpreted as supporting the motion; this proposal is merely to place the motion on the agenda for the AGM.</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=Proposal:Motion_to_remove_Rule_7(1)(a)_at_the_next_AGM&diff=10637Proposal:Motion to remove Rule 7(1)(a) at the next AGM2013-09-15T06:02:20Z<p>John Vandenberg: second</p>
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<div>{{proposal|member1=Lankiveil|member2=John Vandenberg}}<br />
<br />
This is a proposal to place an item on the agenda of the next Annual General Meeting (AGM) to modify the rules of the association to remove the ability of the management committee to fine members as part of the discipline process.<br />
<br />
==Background==<br />
<br />
The association’s rules are based upon the “model rules” provided by Consumer Affairs Victoria (CAV) at the time of the association’s incorporation. Successive changes have been by members to the rules since that time. <br />
<br />
As it currently stands, the provisions of Rule 7(1)(a) allow for the committee to penalise a member who has “''refused or neglected to comply with these Rules, or has been guilty of conduct unbecoming a member or prejudicial to the interests of the Association,''” to “''fine that member an amount not exceeding $500.''” This provision is from the original model rules, and has not to date been invoked. There is a lengthy appeals process if any fine is levied, and it is not clear whether the member can escape the fine by simply resigning, nor what the consequences are for refusing to pay.<br />
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==Resolution==<br />
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It is proposed to include the following motion at the next Annual General Meeting:<br />
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:That the text of Rule 7(1)(a), allowing the committee to fine members amounts up to $500, be removed from the rules of association.<br />
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As this motion involves a change to the rules, a 75% majority would need to vote in favour of it at an Annual General Meeting in order for the rule change to take effect.<br />
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==Notes==<br />
<br />
Supporting this proposal should not necessarily be interpreted as supporting the motion; this proposal is merely to place the motion on the agenda for the AGM.</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=Proposals&diff=10581Proposals2013-09-01T14:09:09Z<p>John Vandenberg: /* Draft proposals */ another one seconded</p>
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<div>This page lists completed proposals.<br />
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To add a suggestion for consideration in the 2014 annual planning process please go to [[Proposal:List of proposals for 2014 planning process]].<br />
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==Completed projects==<br />
====2013====<br />
Wikipedian in Residence<br />
*[[w:Wikipedia:GLAM/State Library of New South Wales|Project page]] (WiR at [[w:State Library of New South Wales|SLNSW]]) <br />
Wikitown<br />
* 2013.05.26 [[Wikipedia:GLAM/Freopedia|Launch of Freopedia]]<br />
Training workshops:<br />
* 2013.03.13 [[w:Wikipedia:GLAM/State Library of New South Wales/March SLNSW| SLNSW]];<br><br />
* 2013.05.02 [[w:Wikipedia:GLAM/State Library of New South Wales/Wagga Wagga|Wagga Wagga]];<br><br />
* 2013.05.24 [[Wikipedia:GLAM/State Library of New South Wales/Canterbury|Campsie]]; <br><br />
* 2013.05.29 [[Wikipedia:GLAM/State Library of New South Wales/Broken Hill| Broken Hill]] <br><br />
Symposium<br />
* 2013.04.05 [[Wikipedia:Meetup/Sydney/5 April 2013|Wikimedia in Higher Education]]<br />
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====2012====<br />
* [[Proposal:Dictionary of Sydney support letter|2012.07 Dictionary of Sydney support letter]]<br />
* [[Wikipedia:WP:Meetup/Sydney/October 2012|2012.10 Editathon French Classical Music]]<br />
* [[Proposal:Paralympic Winter Sports|2012.10 Paralympic Winter Sports]]<br />
* [[Proposal:2012 Languages conference|2012.12 Languages conference]]<br />
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====2011====<br />
* [[Proposal:RecentChangesCamp 2011, Canberra: Facilitation and Outreach|2011.02 Recent Changes Camp, Canberra]]<br />
* [[Proposal:Strategic Plan Proposal|2011.04 Strategic plan proposal]]<br />
* [[Proposal:Camera equipment program|2011.08 Camera equipment program]]<br />
* [[Proposal:Non-member participation|2010.11 Non-member participation]]<br />
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====2010====<br />
* [[Proposal:Test wiki|2010.12 Test wiki]]<br />
* [[Proposal:Content re-licence|2010.12 Content re-licence]]<br />
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==Draft proposals==<br />
* [[Proposal:Minor amendments to the rules to comply with new Act]]<br />
* [[Proposal:Suspending the private mailing list]]<br />
* [[Proposal:Proposed membership table]]<br />
* [[Proposal:Userspace policy]]<br />
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==See also==<br />
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* [[Proposal process]]<br />
* [[Special:prefixindex/Proposal:|All proposal pages]]<br />
* [[wmuk:Activities/Proposals]] - Wikimedia UK Proposals<br />
* [[meta:Category:Proposals]] - Wikimedia Meta Proposals<br />
* [[meta:Grants:Participation]] - WMDE & WMF sponsored travel grants<br />
* [[strategy:Category:Proposals]] - Wikimedia Strategy Proposal<br />
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[[Category:Proposals| ]]</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=Template:WMAU_social_site_links&diff=10573Template:WMAU social site links2013-09-01T07:04:23Z<p>John Vandenberg: +three more</p>
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<div>* [[File:F icon.svg|12px|alt=|link=]]&ensp;[//facebook.com/wikimedia.au Facebook]<br />
* [[File:Google plus.svg|12px|alt=|link=]]&ensp;[//plus.google.com/113215008666332832174 Google+]<br />
* [[File:Twitter logo initial.svg|12px|alt=|link=]]&ensp;[//twitter.com/wm_au Twitter]<br />
* [[File:Linkedin.svg|12px|alt=|link=]]&ensp;[//linkedin.com/... Linkedin]<br />
* [mailto:contact@wikimedia.org.au Email]<br />
* {{irc|wikimedia-au}}</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=User_talk:John_Vandenberg/userspace_policy&diff=10571User talk:John Vandenberg/userspace policy2013-09-01T06:59:01Z<p>John Vandenberg: John Vandenberg moved page User talk:John Vandenberg/userspace policy to Proposal talk:Userspace policy: seconded</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[Proposal talk:Userspace policy]]</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=Proposal_talk:Userspace_policy&diff=10569Proposal talk:Userspace policy2013-09-01T06:59:00Z<p>John Vandenberg: John Vandenberg moved page User talk:John Vandenberg/userspace policy to Proposal talk:Userspace policy: seconded</p>
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<div>== Feedback ==<br />
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I don't know a lot about the policies here, but this does look like an improvement. --[[User:Chris Watkins|Chris Watkins]] 16:15, 1 December 2012 (EST)<br />
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It seems excessive to say that all currently financial members contributing to the page need to agree before a page can be deleted. An admin may need to make the call to delete despite disagreements. [[User:Angela|Angela]] 23:11, 1 December 2012 (EST)<br />
:If we dont require agreement, could we require all users are notified before the deletion happens and are given time to object? [[User:John Vandenberg|John Vandenberg]] 10:09, 2 December 2012 (EST)<br />
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I'm in agreement with Angela here. Otherwise there's the risk that someone could use the page to harass someone and then use that very contribution to block its removal. [[User:Andrew Owens|Andrew Owens]] 02:55, 3 December 2012 (EST)<br />
:I agree with Angela. [[User:Tony1|Tony1]] 20:30, 3 December 2012 (EST)<br />
::I agree also there must be descreationary options for sysop/committee members to delete a page without notice or agreement of those that created or editted it, otherwise WMAU could be seen as facilitating a whole vegie garden of nasty beans. [[User:Gnangarra|Gnan]][[User_talk:Gnangarra|garra]] 22:54, 3 December 2012 (EST)<br />
::: I agree that some content warrants immediate take-down. But I presume we can hang onto the content in case any of the contributors request it for some other purpose. [[User:Kerry Raymond|Kerry Raymond]] 08:59, 8 December 2012 (EST)<br />
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== Template on all user pages ==<br />
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I believe a template "'''should'''" be on user pages where there might be a problem asserting "ownership", not "'''must'''". <br />
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If it is going to be "must", we should use the technology to enforce it. [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] 12:10, 2 December 2012 (EST)<br />
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:I would prefer 'must', but 'should' is OK.<br />
:I think it is easy to manually add a template to everything under [[special:allpages/User:]]. (I see now we'll need to add an exception for .css and .js)<br />
:We could use [[mw:Extension:HeadersFooters]], or the more flexible [[mw:Extension:HeaderFooter]] if we fix it to work with the latest mediawiki. However, I would expect that we will want to use different templates for each type of userpage. e.g. reports would contain one type of header template; proposals would use {{tl|proposal}} (I've changed this template accordingly); personal statements like [[User:Lankiveil/2012 Board of Trustees statement]] and [[User:John Vandenberg/Marriage announcement]] would have a different one. [[User:John Vandenberg|John Vandenberg]] 13:20, 2 December 2012 (EST)<br />
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== topic limitations ==<br />
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I think it should also have a limitation on the what the page is about, there probably a few more things that cna be added <br />
#related to WMAU activities, or other activities that fit within our [[Statement of Purpose]]<br />
#No Advertising, <br />
#:Self promotion, personal bio pages ok <br />
#:No deals, offers or competition notices or prize give aways etc anything that is clearly commercial in nature<br />
#No extremely offensive materials, or links to such.<br />
#No copyrighted works<br />
[[User:Gnangarra|Gnan]][[User_talk:Gnangarra|garra]] 23:02, 3 December 2012 (EST)<br />
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::Yes to all of those, and if we ever introduce a Code of Conduct, anything in violation of that. [[User:Kerry Raymond|Kerry Raymond]] 09:00, 8 December 2012 (EST)<br />
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Thanks Gnangarra for this useful line of discussion with suggestions. This is very much a matter of taste and wiki-philosophy, but I personally don't think that we should be proscriptive or even prescriptive about what content is allowed in userspace, at least at this stage. I hope that by limiting [[proposal:non-member participation|non-member participation]], we can have a 'assume good faith' approach in place, and not build a list of acceptable or unacceptable uses in advance. Rather than requiring userspace pages to fit within our [[Statement of Purpose]], I would rather we explicitly state that pages that conflict with our [[Statement of Purpose]] should be proposed for deletion. I hope we'll never need to respond to extremely offensive materials and links, as most users of this wiki are legally identified and most are members of the organisation with Rules and such.<br />
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Regarding prohibiting advertising: this could get messy - we have photographers who sell high res versions of their Commons photographs, so the line between self-promotion and advertising. I think we are better focusing on a [[Proposal:Conflict of interest policy]] which requires all COIs to be publicly declared. Also, we should allow drafting a concepts to be developed in userspace that involve a commercial organisation. This userspace policy will require that such pages are marked clearly. Before any page could try to offer a real/actual deal/offer/competition, the concept needs to go through the [[proposal policy]]. Not using the [[proposal policy]] before trying to realise any concept would be misuse of the wiki. I do however agree that there is something missing from this policy and/or the proposal policy - something should prevent userspace being misused for ''personal'' projects like the ones you suggest.<br />
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Regarding copyright are handled by [[Wikimedia Australia:Copyrights]] (and [[Proposal:Content re-license]]). [[User:John Vandenberg|John Vandenberg]] 18:19, 10 March 2013 (EST)<br />
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==User pages and Proposals ==<br />
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I would suggest splitting this proposal into two:<br />
* one dealing with user pages<br />
* one dealing with Proposals (which I don't think belong on user pages as nobody will see them there)<br />
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I think proposals have a lifecycle with associated status:<br />
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* Draft1, a draft created by one member, may be altered only by that member (or by "friendly amendment" -- i.e. proposer permits another to make changes)<br />
* Draft2, a draft which now has support of second person, may be altered only by creating member (or by friendly amendment)<br />
* Final, a proposal created and seconded and submitted to the committee for decision, may not be edited by anyone<br />
* In Progress, a proposal agreed to by the committee, proposer can initiate actions to "make it so"<br />
* Unsuccessful, a proposal rejected by the committee<br />
* Draft2 (again), a proposal which the committee feels is currently incomplete for the purposes of making a decision and is returned with feedback on additional information required<br />
* Inactive, a successful proposal that appears not to be progressing but is still approved by the committee <br />
* Abandoned, a successful proposal that has not proceeded for some reason and committee in consultation with the proposer believe cannot be resurrected (e.g. may have been overtaken by events), allows committed but unspent funding to be released<br />
* Completed, a successful proposal that has been implemented, allows committed but unspent funding to be released<br />
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If the proposals page was organised by status, it would be easy to move proposals around so people knew what was the status of all proposals. Proposals can be moved to the Archive pages if the committee decides that they have had no activity in X months and can include proposals with status Draft1, Draft2, Unsuccessful, Abandoned, Completed. At the request of a member, the committee may agree to restore the proposal to the main proposals page. <br />
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Finals are never archived (as they must go to committee decision which will result in a Draft2/In Progress/Unsuccessful).<br />
In Progress and Inactive are never archived (they must first transition to Abandoned/Completed).<br />
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By introducing a proposal lifecycle, we can have:<br />
* clear criteria on transition between the different status<br />
* precise administrative processes that facilitate that transition<br />
* terminate projects because they have succeeded or failed, allowing unspent funding to be released<br />
* precise rules for de-cluttering the proposals page<br />
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And one final thing. Proposals should be linked off the sidebar on the Wiki. [[User:Kerry Raymond|Kerry Raymond]] 09:49, 8 December 2012 (EST)<br />
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:Proposals was added to [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]]. You are advocating a new [[proposal policy]], which is fine, but that needs a separate proposal page or a committee decision. This proposal is allow liberal use of userspace. Whether or not drafting proposals in userspace is ideal, it happens, and many of us have been doing it. Userspace is an area many wiki editors feel more comfortable drafting in. [[User:John Vandenberg|John Vandenberg]] 09:12, 11 March 2013 (EST)</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=User:John_Vandenberg/userspace_policy&diff=10567User:John Vandenberg/userspace policy2013-09-01T06:59:00Z<p>John Vandenberg: John Vandenberg moved page User:John Vandenberg/userspace policy to Proposal:Userspace policy: seconded</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[Proposal:Userspace policy]]</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=Proposal:Userspace_policy&diff=10565Proposal:Userspace policy2013-09-01T06:59:00Z<p>John Vandenberg: John Vandenberg moved page User:John Vandenberg/userspace policy to Proposal:Userspace policy: seconded</p>
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<div>{{proposal|member1=John Vandenberg|member2=Steven Zhang}}<br />
This is a proposal to allow members to optimise the use of their userspace on the Wikimedia Australia wiki.<br />
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== Background ==<br />
Members are already employing their userspace for various purposes; however, there is no policy specifically regarding this, and the [[proposals policy]] technically prevents proposals being drafted in userspace.<br />
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== Userspace policy ==<br />
The following text will be the "userspace policy" for the organisation's wiki:<br />
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<blockquote><br />
== Creating pages ==<br />
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Users may create pages in their own userspace. Any user may discuss these pages on the associated "user talk" page.<br />
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Each page must begin with a note that clearly indicates that the contents of the page are the responsibility of the person in whose userspace it is located, and describes how the page relates to the [[statement of purposes|purposes of the organisation]]. Templates such as {{tl|proposal}} and {{tl|userpage}} will be provided for common userspace usages.<br />
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== Editing pages ==<br />
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Any user may edit pages in the userspace of another user, however they should generally edit it only in the manner intended by the creator.<br />
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== Deleting pages ==<br />
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Sysops may delete pages in userspace (and associated talk pages).<br />
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Where possible and appropriate, the sysops should attempt to engage (preferably on-wiki) the currently financial members that have contributed to the page and its talk page.<br />
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If a member believes a page in someone else's userspace is in conflict with the organisations [[Statement of Purpose]], they should request deletion on the talk page with jusstification, and alert the sysops. Blanking a page in someone else's userspace is not recommended, and should only be considered if the sysops do not respond ''at all'' within an appropriate time period.<br />
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== Proposals process ==<br />
The [[proposals policy]] currently says "Before a proposal can be created on the public website of Wikimedia Australia ...".<br />
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This should be amended to say "Before a proposal may be placed in the "Proposal" namespace on the public website of Wikimedia Australia ...".<br />
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== Old pages in mainspace ==<br />
These are a few proposals in mainspace that were part of the organisation's strategy, but did not proceed for various reasons, and should be moved into the [[proposals]] namespace and marked as inactive.<br />
* [[ISP Filtering]]<br />
* [[Corporate sponsorship]]<br />
* [[AusWikiConf 2009]]<br />
* [[AusWiki Conference 2012]]<br />
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There were pages created in "mainspace" before the [[proposals process]] that were primarily the work of a single person and are more appropriate in userspace, or should be moved to the [[proposals]] namespace if there are still two members who wish to develop and promote the concept. The redirects in mainspace should be deleted.<br />
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* [[Schools' Wikipedia Australia]] : [[user:privatemusings]]<br />
* [[Wikipedia on HSC syllabus]] : [[user:Pfctdayelise]]<br />
* [[Wikis in government]] : [[user:Pfctdayelise]]<br />
* [[Conferences]] : [[user:Pfctdayelise]]<br />
* [[Schools/Info Pack]] : [[user:privatemusings]]</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_Australia&diff=10561Wikimedia Australia2013-09-01T06:53:58Z<p>John Vandenberg: add {{WMAU social site links}}</p>
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<div>This page lists completed proposals.<br />
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To add a suggestion for consideration in the 2014 annual planning process please go to [[Proposal:List of proposals for 2014 planning process]].<br />
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==Completed projects==<br />
====2013====<br />
Wikipedian in Residence<br />
*[[w:Wikipedia:GLAM/State Library of New South Wales|Project page]] (WiR at [[w:State Library of New South Wales|SLNSW]]) <br />
Wikitown<br />
* 2013.05.26 [[Wikipedia:GLAM/Freopedia|Launch of Freopedia]]<br />
Training workshops:<br />
* 2013.03.13 [[w:Wikipedia:GLAM/State Library of New South Wales/March SLNSW| SLNSW]];<br><br />
* 2013.05.02 [[w:Wikipedia:GLAM/State Library of New South Wales/Wagga Wagga|Wagga Wagga]];<br><br />
* 2013.05.24 [[Wikipedia:GLAM/State Library of New South Wales/Canterbury|Campsie]]; <br><br />
* 2013.05.29 [[Wikipedia:GLAM/State Library of New South Wales/Broken Hill| Broken Hill]] <br><br />
Symposium<br />
* 2013.04.05 [[Wikipedia:Meetup/Sydney/5 April 2013|Wikimedia in Higher Education]]<br />
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====2012====<br />
* [[Proposal:Dictionary of Sydney support letter|2012.07 Dictionary of Sydney support letter]]<br />
* [[Wikipedia:WP:Meetup/Sydney/October 2012|2012.10 Editathon French Classical Music]]<br />
* [[Proposal:Paralympic Winter Sports|2012.10 Paralympic Winter Sports]]<br />
* [[Proposal:2012 Languages conference|2012.12 Languages conference]]<br />
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====2011====<br />
* [[Proposal:RecentChangesCamp 2011, Canberra: Facilitation and Outreach|2011.02 Recent Changes Camp, Canberra]]<br />
* [[Proposal:Strategic Plan Proposal|2011.04 Strategic plan proposal]]<br />
* [[Proposal:Camera equipment program|2011.08 Camera equipment program]]<br />
* [[Proposal:Non-member participation|2010.11 Non-member participation]]<br />
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====2010====<br />
* [[Proposal:Test wiki|2010.12 Test wiki]]<br />
* [[Proposal:Content re-licence|2010.12 Content re-licence]]<br />
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==Draft proposals==<br />
* [[Proposal:Minor amendments to the rules to comply with new Act]]<br />
* [[Proposal:Suspending the private mailing list]]<br />
* [[Proposal:Proposed membership table]]<br />
* [[User:John Vandenberg/userspace policy]]<br />
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==See also==<br />
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* [[Proposal process]]<br />
* [[Special:prefixindex/Proposal:|All proposal pages]]<br />
* [[wmuk:Activities/Proposals]] - Wikimedia UK Proposals<br />
* [[meta:Category:Proposals]] - Wikimedia Meta Proposals<br />
* [[meta:Grants:Participation]] - WMDE & WMF sponsored travel grants<br />
* [[strategy:Category:Proposals]] - Wikimedia Strategy Proposal<br />
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[[Category:Proposals| ]]</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=Proposals&diff=10553Proposals2013-09-01T04:38:43Z<p>John Vandenberg: /* Draft proposals */ update page name</p>
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<div>This page lists completed proposals.<br />
<br />
To add a suggestion for consideration in the 2014 annual planning process please go to [[Proposal:List of proposals for 2014 planning process]].<br />
<br />
==Completed projects==<br />
====2013====<br />
Wikipedian in Residence<br />
*[[w:Wikipedia:GLAM/State Library of New South Wales|Project page]] (WiR at [[w:State Library of New South Wales|SLNSW]]) <br />
Wikitown<br />
* 2013.05.26 [[Wikipedia:GLAM/Freopedia|Launch of Freopedia]]<br />
Training workshops:<br />
* 2013.03.13 [[w:Wikipedia:GLAM/State Library of New South Wales/March SLNSW| SLNSW]];<br><br />
* 2013.05.02 [[w:Wikipedia:GLAM/State Library of New South Wales/Wagga Wagga|Wagga Wagga]];<br><br />
* 2013.05.24 [[Wikipedia:GLAM/State Library of New South Wales/Canterbury|Campsie]]; <br><br />
* 2013.05.29 [[Wikipedia:GLAM/State Library of New South Wales/Broken Hill| Broken Hill]] <br><br />
Symposium<br />
* 2013.04.05 [[Wikipedia:Meetup/Sydney/5 April 2013|Wikimedia in Higher Education]]<br />
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====2012====<br />
* [[Proposal:Dictionary of Sydney support letter|2012.07 Dictionary of Sydney support letter]]<br />
* [[Wikipedia:WP:Meetup/Sydney/October 2012|2012.10 Editathon French Classical Music]]<br />
* [[Proposal:Paralympic Winter Sports|2012.10 Paralympic Winter Sports]]<br />
* [[Proposal:2012 Languages conference|2012.12 Languages conference]]<br />
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====2011====<br />
* [[Proposal:RecentChangesCamp 2011, Canberra: Facilitation and Outreach|2011.02 Recent Changes Camp, Canberra]]<br />
* [[Proposal:Strategic Plan Proposal|2011.04 Strategic plan proposal]]<br />
* [[Proposal:Camera equipment program|2011.08 Camera equipment program]]<br />
* [[Proposal:Non-member participation|2010.11 Non-member participation]]<br />
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====2010====<br />
* [[Proposal:Test wiki|2010.12 Test wiki]]<br />
* [[Proposal:Content re-licence|2010.12 Content re-licence]]<br />
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==Draft proposals==<br />
* [[Proposal:Minor amendments to the rules to comply with new Act]]<br />
* [[Proposal:Suspending the private mailing list]]<br />
* [[User:John Vandenberg/userspace policy]]<br />
* [[User:Tony1/Proposed membership table]]<br />
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==See also==<br />
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* [[Proposal process]]<br />
* [[Special:prefixindex/Proposal:|All proposal pages]]<br />
* [[wmuk:Activities/Proposals]] - Wikimedia UK Proposals<br />
* [[meta:Category:Proposals]] - Wikimedia Meta Proposals<br />
* [[meta:Grants:Participation]] - WMDE & WMF sponsored travel grants<br />
* [[strategy:Category:Proposals]] - Wikimedia Strategy Proposal<br />
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[[Category:Proposals| ]]</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=User_talk:John_Vandenberg/Suspending_the_private_mailing_list&diff=10551User talk:John Vandenberg/Suspending the private mailing list2013-09-01T04:37:18Z<p>John Vandenberg: John Vandenberg moved page User talk:John Vandenberg/Suspending the private mailing list to Proposal talk:Suspending the private mailing list: seconded</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[Proposal talk:Suspending the private mailing list]]</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=Proposal_talk:Suspending_the_private_mailing_list&diff=10549Proposal talk:Suspending the private mailing list2013-09-01T04:37:18Z<p>John Vandenberg: John Vandenberg moved page User talk:John Vandenberg/Suspending the private mailing list to Proposal talk:Suspending the private mailing list: seconded</p>
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<div>== Feedback ==<br />
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Looks good to me. There are arguments both ways on whether we need a private mailing list, and this is a reasonable process for resolving it. --[[User:Chris Watkins|Chris Watkins]] 16:13, 1 December 2012 (EST)<br />
:Will you second this proposal, by putting your name in the template at the top? [[User:John Vandenberg|John Vandenberg]] 16:37, 1 December 2012 (EST)<br />
::Sorry, just catching up now. Since the above comments, several people have expressed concerns below, and I'm not 100% sure yet myself. Good discussion though. See my comments [[Ideas (not necessarily good ones) for a resolution|below]]. --[[User:Chris Watkins|Chris Watkins]] 23:28, 17 December 2012 (EST)<br />
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==My thoughts==<br />
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Thanks John for proposing this. I feel very strongly that the behaviour of some people on the private mailing list during the recent election process was disgraceful and embarrassing for the chapter. I think that having a “private” mailing list, which allows people to hide their poor behaviour behind a cloak of ‘privacy’ is not productive to the movement in the long term, and flies in the face of the values of transparency and accountability that the chapter should be fostering. The present situation is unsatisfactory, and it must change.<br />
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There have been a few comments made on the private mailing list which I’d like to address here:<br />
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* '''There are some legitimate comments that should remain private, as they may be taken out of context'''. This has a core of truth to it, but the existing “private” mailing list isn’t really that private to begin with. Anyone with twenty quid (or a concession card and a tenner) can become a member, get subscribed, and then do what they want with the messages on the list. Any expectation of actual privacy on a mailing list with more than ten people, or where you do not personally know each and every subscriber, is rather fanciful in my experience. We shouldn’t be providing a forum that people think is “private” where it’s actually not private and can’t be made private.<br />
* '''Some of the comments in recent weeks are not the sort of thing we want made in public'''. Again, I agree with this. I’d anticipate that moving discussion to a venue where the comments are visible to the public and eternally preserved for posterity would make people think twice before sending heated or careless comments through.<br />
* '''Having a members-only mailing list provides an incentive for people to join the chapter'''. In my experience, this is not the place. I don’t imagine anyone (except for leakers) has signed up for the purpose of getting access to our internal squabbling. Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong here =)<br />
* '''Removing a private mailing list will just mean that the squabbling goes underground to other private venues'''. Perhaps this will happen, but I can’t imagine how this would be worse than the current situation where a few hotheads can air dirty laundry in front of the whole membership.<br />
* '''The loss of privacy will mean people won’t feel comfortable making frank and honest feedback about the committee or the chapter’s partners'''. In my experience, our members have never been shy about being frank and honest, whatever the circumstances =). <br />
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One of the proposals being made has been to shift discussion onto the public chapter wiki. This has some merit; everything is done out and in the open, and with good organisation it’s easy to follow just the discussions you’re interested in and ignore those you aren’t. Personally, I find that while wikis are excellent tools for collaboratively developing content, they’re badly suited to hosting discussion and debate. Insisting everything take place on-wiki might create a barrier to those who are more comfortable engaging in discussion via an email mailing list.<br />
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The other alternative that has been proposed is to move discussion to the public wikimediaau-l mailing list. This list is already public, and anyone may subscribe or view its archives. However, this list is maintained by the WMF, not by the chapter. The chapter would not have any ability to sanction misconduct or take action to remove problematic content from the archive. My understanding is that the WMF intends it to be a list for people in Australia interested in Wikimedia, not a chapter list per se, and the existing community there might be a bit put out if a whole load of chapter business suddenly appears there. <br />
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Hope this provides everyone with some food for thought. [[User:Lankiveil|Lankiveil]] 17:58, 1 December 2012 (EST).<br />
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== WMF hosted email list ==<br />
Following on from one of Craig's points, the UK chapter exclusively uses the public WMF hosted list for their chapter email communication.(and also uses a WMF hosted wiki for their main website as well) This did cause problems, when one gent objected strongly to an email which he considered libellous. The response was that the archives of the UK list (hosted by WMF) were set to be 'private', which means only list members can access them. After many months their list was restored to be a public list. I dont know what happened with the problematic emails in the archive.<br />
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The Australian public wikimedia list does include quite a few non-members, but they dont often send emails to the list, and many active members are not on the public list. [[User:John Vandenberg|John Vandenberg]] 18:39, 1 December 2012 (EST)<br />
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== I object ==<br />
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As I understand it, once (if) this does get a seconder, only a majority of the current committee has to agree with this proposal and it will happen, so I want to voice my objection now.<br />
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Unfortunately my reasons are mostly those listed by [[User:Lankiveil|Lankiveil ]] in [[#My thoughts|My thoughts]] above; I just decide that most of these reasons are enough to keep a private form of communication just to members. [[User:Markhurd|Mark Hurd]] 12:23, 2 December 2012 (EST)<br />
: In agreement. In practice when such a forum is not available, people will tend to create their own - this results in fragmented, unofficial and unmonitored communication between groups (cliques, if you will) of individuals which can have consequences for the organisation. Have seen this exact thing happen in another organisation I'm involved in. However I'm in favour of the balance shifting towards announcements being made on the au-l list so that non-members know and can see what the chapter is doing. Historically (prior to the 2010-11 term of the committee) the private list was barely used at all, except around elections and such, and au-l was the main forum for communication. [[User:Andrew Owens|Andrew Owens]] 02:59, 3 December 2012 (EST)<br />
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== don't appear to be (back) on the list ==<br />
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Like any good wiki-citizen, at the first sniff of intrigue, I reach for the akashic records to review / sticky beak - fwiw, I vastly prefer using a public list, and would porbably support a suspension of the private list, but I also would quite like to be back on the list - I think after my blazing return to financial status and activity, I failed to get popped back... hopefully someone suitable informed will be able to check :-) thanks! [[User:Privatemusings|Privatemusings]] 11:49, 3 December 2012 (EST)<br />
:Sorry I forgot to add you again. I will do this once I have access to the server, which should be Real Soon Now. [[User:John Vandenberg|John Vandenberg]] 12:01, 3 December 2012 (EST)<br />
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== Agree (it's not private anyway) ==<br />
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I agree with Lankiveil's point above about it not really being a 'private' list at all. ''Anyone'' can become a member. Let's make everything explicitly public, because it is anyway. [[User:Samwilson|Sam Wilson]] 12:26, 3 December 2012 (EST)<br />
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==Disagree - let's deal with core issue here ==<br />
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Firstly, can I get some clarification as to the terminology here?<br />
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By private list do we mean members@wikimedia.org.au<br />
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By public list do we mean wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org<br />
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I agree with the concern about the nature of the emails we have seen sent on the private list of late, but note some of them have also been sent to the public list and other public forums, suggesting that the private/public nature of the forum is not the primary issue here.<br />
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I think we need to establish a code of conduct on the private list and that people who violate that code of conduct get a warning the first time and then get suspended from the list for (say) a month the next time. Lets deal with the problem directly, rather than redirect it to somewhere else (public list or wiki).<br />
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I believe the private list should remain as a forum where *members* discuss the business of WMAU. If we use the public list, then this is a list of the WMF not the WMAU. We have no control over who is subscribed or whether or not they are members or, unlike the private list, no way of prescribing or enforcing acceptable conduct. As a committee member, I have a responsibility to listen to and consider the views of the membership in making committee decisions; I don't have the same responsibility to listen to the views of any random person who chooses to sign up to the public list; indeed, I have no obligation to be subscribed to the public list itself (although I am in practice).<br />
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I think the private list should remain as there are matters that are solely the private business of WMAU. We are a legal entity with consequent legal obligations. We have a number of partner organisations. Unless the partner is willing to have their dealings with us discussed in public, I don't believe we can discuss our dealings with them on a public list. Maybe it's just the nature of my day job, but I have to shred most of the paperwork in my office before disposal because it relates to activities carried out under collaborative arrangements that are routinely subject to non-disclosure or commercial-in-confidence. And I suggest that should we ever have the misfortune of finding ourselves as a party to a legal action or an adversial/competitive relationship with another organisation, then a public forum is not appropriate. Competitive relationships are quite normal, every buy-sell transaction is competitive(the buyer wants it cheaper, the seller wants it more expensive). If we discuss our views on financial arrangements with a supplier or partner in public, we disclose our position which loses all negotiating power. Saying in public "We're willing to pay $10K but we'd like to get it for $8K" ensures you will end up paying $10K!<br />
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I don't see on-wiki as a viable alternative. Personally I find wikis good for some things (collaborative editing) but not for a conversation (which is a series of individual comments, not requiring collaborative editing). Secondly it's not private (see my comments on the need for privacy above).<br />
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If we have a problem with conduct on the private list, then lets establish a code of conduct. [[User:Kerry Raymond|Kerry Raymond]] 08:14, 8 December 2012 (EST)<br />
::The insistance that all proposal are made on wiki kinda kills any commercial-in-confidence applications already [[User:Gnangarra|Gnan]][[User_talk:Gnangarra|garra]] 11:37, 8 December 2012 (EST)<br />
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:::Yep, the public nature of the proposals worries me too. I would prefer if they were restricted to WMAU members. For example, by making people's travel details public, we reveal when their home may be empty, which is pretty much contrary to any "stay safe online" advice. And all this enthusiasm for doing everything in public overlooks the issue of any member who has taken out some domestic violence order or anti-stalking order, or the possibility that some of our members are children. Etc. [[User:Kerry Raymond|Kerry Raymond]] 14:00, 8 December 2012 (EST)<br />
::::Agree 110% with everything you've written here Kerry; especially in relation to keeping from the world at large one's travel plans; especially important given that we really have no idea who is looking at the public list. Also especially agree with a code of conduct for the members list. [[User:Russavia|Russavia]] 14:08, 9 December 2012 (EST)<br />
*I also agree with Kerry. We have lots of public avenues for discussion (let's use them), please keep our private one available. I'm not a fan of the censorship layer (send to the committee for approval), but obviously guidelines would be fine. Please focus committee energy on developing those instead of shutting down a list. --[[User:99of9|99of9]] 14:21, 9 December 2012 (EST)<br />
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* Agreed with Kerry in entirety. Regarding the list, a basic (and enforceable as Kerry has suggested) set of core principles which people sign up to would be a better way of doing things than restricting the list. [[User:Andrew Owens|Andrew Owens]] 19:57, 9 December 2012 (EST)<br />
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== Ideas (not necessarily good ones) for a resolution ==<br />
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Several peoples are opposed ([[#I object]] and [[#Disagree - let's deal with core issue here]]). I lean towards using a public list, but having read through this page, I'm not yet convinced either way.<br />
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One impractical idea I had for a compromise, which I'll share in the hope that someone can do better, is to have a private channel with strict guidelines, only for special cases that need to be private, including the examples above of commercial-in-confidence information and travel plans. Most conversations should default to the public list - either the existing list, Wikimediaau-l, or a separate chapter list. (As John said, non-members don't often send emails to Wikimediaau-l, so I don't think it's a big problem to have an open public list as our main channel.) If most conversations happen on the public list, people might think twice before going to a private list just to make a personal attack.<br />
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Fatal problems with this idea include having to join two lists, working out what the difference is, and the mental overhead of deciding which list to post to, each time. Surely someone suggest a better compromise? <br />
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Or perhaps we address the concerns about privacy - e.g.:<br />
* Commercial-in-confidence information: Give details to the committee, and at the same time notify the list of the generalities of the proposal, letting members know that they can get details privately if they wish.<br />
* Travel plans - if it's public, you'd obviously only post what info, if any, you're comfortable with sharing publicly, but you could also contact people directly for any communication beyond that. It's not as convenient, but is it a big problem? My feeling is that this isn't a core function of the list. <br />
--[[User:Chris Watkins|Chris Watkins]] 23:24, 17 December 2012 (EST)</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=User:John_Vandenberg/Suspending_the_private_mailing_list&diff=10547User:John Vandenberg/Suspending the private mailing list2013-09-01T04:37:17Z<p>John Vandenberg: John Vandenberg moved page User:John Vandenberg/Suspending the private mailing list to Proposal:Suspending the private mailing list: seconded</p>
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<div>{{proposal|member1=John Vandenberg|member2=Lankiveil}}<br />
This proposal is to suspend the private members mailing list, discuss the cost/benefit of it on our public wiki, and put in place policies for its use before it is re-enabled.<br />
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== Background ==<br />
As in many countries, the Wikimedia community in Australia has had a public mailing list since before the chapter existed. When the chapter was created, a private "members" mailing list was established for discussion between members only, and an "announce" list was established however it has not been used.<br />
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In the weeks between nomination of candidates for the committee of management and the AGM, the Wikimedia Australia private mailing list was used in ways that are not beneficial to the organisation. Specifically, accusations of impropriety and illegality have been made privately without evidence.<br />
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One member asked to be removed from the private list during this period, presumably due to the inappropriateness of the content of the list traffic. This was done by Adam Jenkins.<br />
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Even after the AGM, the accusations continue, and the people involved have continued to niggle at each other on the private mailing list.<br />
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We do not have policies or guidelines that help with the management and moderation of the private "members" mailing list.<br />
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The [[Rules]] leave a lot to be desired in the way of dealing with problems that arise from differences in opinion on how the private "members" mailing list should be used.<br />
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Similar accusations have also been made publicly, however these are on the public record and are able to be assessed by peers in the broader community on the merits of the statements made, and answers made in public.<br />
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Private discussion allows people to avoid public scrutiny of their statements, which is not in accord with the Wikimedia Australia [[wmau:Strategic_Plan#Values|Values]]. These issues should have been framed as questions in public, and the answers should have been public.<br />
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Over the years many members have lamented the lack of activity on the public wiki and on the public mailing list. It is hoped that by suspending the private mailing list, more members will become active on the public wiki and the public mailing list will again become our primary communication tool.<br />
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== Interim solution ==<br />
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While the private members mailing list is suspended, the following measures will be taken to limit the adverse effects of suspending the private members mailing list<br />
* the committee should encourage existing and new members to join the public mailing list, and to create a wiki account.<br />
* a public announce list and a private announce list will be set up and used by the committee to inform members of important information at its discretion.<br />
** Requests to send an email to the public announce list will be made on the wiki.<br />
** Requests to send an email to the private announce list will be made by email to {{nospam|committee}}<br />
* a weekly digest of important activity will be sent to the public announce list, including links to ongoing discussions relating to this proposal.<br />
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== Re-enabling the list ==<br />
The community are requested to discuss the members mailing list in public (e.g. at [[Billabong]]), develop a list of costs and benefits, and develop policies and guidelines that address the problems we have seen previously.<br />
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For example, if one of the benefits of the private mailing list is the ability for members to inform other members about a conflict of interest, a conflict of interest policy is needed so that there is agreement on if & when private disclosure is appropriate.<br />
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After the committee believes there is consensus that the necessary policies and guidelines are in place, re-enabling the mailing list will be placed on the agenda of a public [[IRC]] meeting, and then placed on the agenda of the following committee meeting.</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=Proposals&diff=10501Proposals2013-08-28T23:12:21Z<p>John Vandenberg: /* Draft proposals */ add rule amendment</p>
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<div>This page lists completed proposals.<br />
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To add a suggestion for consideration in the 2014 annual planning process please go to [[Proposal:List of proposals for 2014 planning process]].<br />
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==Draft proposals==<br />
* [[User:John Vandenberg/userspace policy]]<br />
* [[User:John Vandenberg/Suspending the private mailing list]]<br />
* [[User:Tony1/Proposed membership table]]<br />
* [[Proposal:Minor amendments to the rules to comply with new Act]]<br />
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==Completed projects==<br />
====2013====<br />
Wikipedian in Residence<br />
*[[w:Wikipedia:GLAM/State Library of New South Wales|Project page]] (WiR at [[w:State Library of New South Wales|SLNSW]]) <br />
Wikitown<br />
* 2013.05.26 [[Wikipedia:GLAM/Freopedia|Launch of Freopedia]]<br />
Training workshops:<br />
* 2013.03.13 [[w:Wikipedia:GLAM/State Library of New South Wales/March SLNSW| SLNSW]];<br><br />
* 2013.05.02 [[w:Wikipedia:GLAM/State Library of New South Wales/Wagga Wagga|Wagga Wagga]];<br><br />
* 2013.05.24 [[Wikipedia:GLAM/State Library of New South Wales/Canterbury|Campsie]]; <br><br />
* 2013.05.29 [[Wikipedia:GLAM/State Library of New South Wales/Broken Hill| Broken Hill]] <br><br />
Symposium<br />
* 2013.04.05 [[Wikipedia:Meetup/Sydney/5 April 2013|Wikimedia in Higher Education]]<br />
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====2012====<br />
* [[Proposal:Dictionary of Sydney support letter|2012.07 Dictionary of Sydney support letter]]<br />
* [[Wikipedia:WP:Meetup/Sydney/October 2012|2012.10 Editathon French Classical Music]]<br />
* [[Proposal:Paralympic Winter Sports|2012.10 Paralympic Winter Sports]]<br />
* [[Proposal:2012 Languages conference|2012.12 Languages conference]]<br />
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====2011====<br />
* [[Proposal:RecentChangesCamp 2011, Canberra: Facilitation and Outreach|2011.02 Recent Changes Camp, Canberra]]<br />
* [[Proposal:Strategic Plan Proposal|2011.04 Strategic plan proposal]]<br />
* [[Proposal:Camera equipment program|2011.08 Camera equipment program]]<br />
* [[Proposal:Non-member participation|2010.11 Non-member participation]]<br />
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====2010====<br />
* [[Proposal:Test wiki|2010.12 Test wiki]]<br />
* [[Proposal:Content re-licence|2010.12 Content re-licence]]<br />
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==See also==<br />
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* [[Proposal process]]<br />
* [[Special:prefixindex/Proposal:|All proposal pages]]<br />
* [[wmuk:Activities/Proposals]] - Wikimedia UK Proposals<br />
* [[meta:Category:Proposals]] - Wikimedia Meta Proposals<br />
* [[meta:Grants:Participation]] - WMDE & WMF sponsored travel grants<br />
* [[strategy:Category:Proposals]] - Wikimedia Strategy Proposal<br />
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[[Category:Proposals| ]]</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=Proposal:Minor_amendments_to_the_rules_to_comply_with_new_Act&diff=10499Proposal:Minor amendments to the rules to comply with new Act2013-08-28T23:07:59Z<p>John Vandenberg: fix syntax</p>
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<div>{{proposal|member1=Lankiveil|member2=Markhurd}}<br />
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This is a proposal to place an item on the agenda of the next Annual General Meeting (AGM) to modify the rules of the association to make minor amendments to the Rules as requested by Consumer Affairs Victoria (CAV) to comply with the new act.<br />
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==Background==<br />
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The association's rules are based upon the "model rules" provided by Consumer Affairs Victoria (CAV) at the time of the association’s incorporation. Successive changes have been by members to the rules since that time. <br />
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The legislation that governs incorporated associations in Victoria has changed as a result of the passing of the ''[http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/num_act/aira201220o2012422/ Associations Incorporation Reform Act 2012]'', which replaces the earlier ''[http://www.legislation.vic.gov.au/domino/Web_notes/LDMS/LTObject_Store/LTObjSt1.nsf/d1a8d8a9bed958efca25761600042ef5/74612b2c560cdb73ca2577610016e258/$FILE/81-9713a062.pdf Associations Incorporation Act 1981]''. At the 2012 AGM, members approved a number of changes to bring the rules of the association into alignment with the requirements of the new act. These changes were accepted by CAV, but CAV have also requested that we make further changes to our rules in order to comply with the act.<br />
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The changes are minor in nature, and involve:<br />
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#Altering [http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Rules#2._Definitions Rule 2(1)] to specify that the word "Act" now means the "''Associations Incorporation Reform Act 2012''" rather than the "''Associations Incorporation Act 1981''", and;<br />
#Altering [http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Rules#30._Removal_of_committee_member Rule 30(1)] to specify that removal of a committee member can be achieved only through the passing of a special resolution at a General Meeting, as specified in [http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/num_act/aira201220o2012422/s78.html section 78(2)(b)] of the new act.<br />
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==Resolution==<br />
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It is proposed to include the following motion at the next Annual General Meeting or Special General Meeting:<br />
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:That the text of Rule 2(1) is amended to replace the words "''Associations Incorporation Act 1981''" with the words "''Associations Incorporation Reform Act 2012''", and that the text of Rule 30(1) is amended to replace the words "by resolution" with the words "by special resolution".<br />
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As this motion involves a change to the rules, a 75% majority would need to vote in favour of it at a General Meeting in order for the rule change to take effect.<br />
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==Notes==<br />
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Supporting this proposal should not necessarily be interpreted as supporting the motion; this proposal is merely to place the motion on the agenda for the AGM.</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=User:Lankiveil/Proposal:Motion_to_make_minor_amendments_to_the_rules_to_comply_with_new_Act&diff=10497User:Lankiveil/Proposal:Motion to make minor amendments to the rules to comply with new Act2013-08-28T23:07:01Z<p>John Vandenberg: John Vandenberg moved page User:Lankiveil/Proposal:Motion to make minor amendments to the rules to comply with new Act to Proposal:Minor amendments to the rules to comply with new Act: seconded</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[Proposal:Minor amendments to the rules to comply with new Act]]</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=Proposal:Minor_amendments_to_the_rules_to_comply_with_new_Act&diff=10495Proposal:Minor amendments to the rules to comply with new Act2013-08-28T23:07:00Z<p>John Vandenberg: John Vandenberg moved page User:Lankiveil/Proposal:Motion to make minor amendments to the rules to comply with new Act to Proposal:Minor amendments to the rules to comply with new Act: seconded</p>
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<div>{{proposal|Lankiveil|member2=Markhurd}}<br />
<br />
This is a proposal to place an item on the agenda of the next Annual General Meeting (AGM) to modify the rules of the association to make minor amendments to the Rules as requested by Consumer Affairs Victoria (CAV) to comply with the new act.<br />
<br />
==Background==<br />
<br />
The association's rules are based upon the "model rules" provided by Consumer Affairs Victoria (CAV) at the time of the association’s incorporation. Successive changes have been by members to the rules since that time. <br />
<br />
The legislation that governs incorporated associations in Victoria has changed as a result of the passing of the ''[http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/num_act/aira201220o2012422/ Associations Incorporation Reform Act 2012]'', which replaces the earlier ''[http://www.legislation.vic.gov.au/domino/Web_notes/LDMS/LTObject_Store/LTObjSt1.nsf/d1a8d8a9bed958efca25761600042ef5/74612b2c560cdb73ca2577610016e258/$FILE/81-9713a062.pdf Associations Incorporation Act 1981]''. At the 2012 AGM, members approved a number of changes to bring the rules of the association into alignment with the requirements of the new act. These changes were accepted by CAV, but CAV have also requested that we make further changes to our rules in order to comply with the act.<br />
<br />
The changes are minor in nature, and involve:<br />
<br />
#Altering [http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Rules#2._Definitions Rule 2(1)] to specify that the word "Act" now means the "''Associations Incorporation Reform Act 2012''" rather than the "''Associations Incorporation Act 1981''", and;<br />
#Altering [http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Rules#30._Removal_of_committee_member Rule 30(1)] to specify that removal of a committee member can be achieved only through the passing of a special resolution at a General Meeting, as specified in [http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/num_act/aira201220o2012422/s78.html section 78(2)(b)] of the new act.<br />
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==Resolution==<br />
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It is proposed to include the following motion at the next Annual General Meeting or Special General Meeting:<br />
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:That the text of Rule 2(1) is amended to replace the words "''Associations Incorporation Act 1981''" with the words "''Associations Incorporation Reform Act 2012''", and that the text of Rule 30(1) is amended to replace the words "by resolution" with the words "by special resolution".<br />
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As this motion involves a change to the rules, a 75% majority would need to vote in favour of it at a General Meeting in order for the rule change to take effect.<br />
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==Notes==<br />
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Supporting this proposal should not necessarily be interpreted as supporting the motion; this proposal is merely to place the motion on the agenda for the AGM.</div>John Vandenberghttps://wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=User_talk:John_Vandenberg&diff=10185User talk:John Vandenberg2013-07-21T02:56:38Z<p>John Vandenberg: /* FYI */ processing</p>
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== congrat.s ==<br />
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very belated I'm sure - but hey, you got married! Congrat.s and mebbe see you around :-) [[User:Privatemusings|Privatemusings]] 14:51, 2 October 2012 (EST)<br />
:Thanks! ;-) [[User:John Vandenberg|John Vandenberg]] 15:19, 2 October 2012 (EST)<br />
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== fyi ==<br />
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I have literally paid my dues. Hows about that - [[User_talk:Lankiveil#g.27day_again|fyi]] [[User:Privatemusings|Privatemusings]] 16:09, 9 October 2012 (EST)<br />
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== Hi ==<br />
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Hi John. Any thoughts you might have (or discussions you might point to) about COI bylaws would be very welcome. And if you can provide diffs that will give me a background for this chapter, that would be much appreciated, too. --[[User:Anthonyhcole|Anthonyhcole]] 01:51, 17 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:Hi Anthony, it is great to see you here. See the last paragraph of [[Proposal:Conflict of interest policy]], and my comments at [[Talk:Conflict of interest policy]]. I am also quite impressed with where WMUK is going - they have a more active community of people pushing for greater disclosure and less AGF, which is resulting in greater transparency. (I wish I could import a few of these people to help us write our COI policy and guidelines.)<br />
:Background .. hmm ..<br />
:The organisation has two [[meetings]] each month. On the first Sunday we have a public [[IRC]] meeting, with the transcript published. On the third Sunday the committee has a private IRC meeting, and the minutes are published on the public wiki. I try to ensure that the committee minutes are published before the following public IRC meeting, but that's not always been possible.<br />
:We started the organisation with this wiki as editable by members only, and a private mailing list. In 2010-11 we established a [[proposals process]], [[Proposal:Content re-license|re-licensed]] the wiki, and opened it for [[Proposal:Non-member participation|non-member participation]]. The private mailing list has had its positives and negatives; the main negative is that participation in the [http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaau-l/ public Australian mailing list] has dropped significantly.<br />
:We received quite a large amount of donations and good-will from Australians in the 2010 Fundraiser. We have been quite conservative about spending the money, slowly developing innovative programs and carefully selecting the content projects and partners in order to strategically focus our effort and funds.<br />
:The [[Meeting:2012 AGM|2012 AGM]] is just around the corner. Non-members are welcome to attend and contribute. If you are interested in a physical meeting, mention your interest and location at [[Meeting talk:2012 AGM|2012 AGM]]. We'll announce details regarding pyjama attendance (IRC/teleconference) shortly.<br />
:The most important item at the AGM will be the [[2013 Annual Plan]]. Nobody has commented publicly about it because the feedback tends to be given on the private mailing list (see problem mentioned above). Perhaps you could be the first to provide public feedback. Any member can edit the annual plan before the AGM; as a non-member you will need to suggest edits on the talk page and hope a member integrates your suggestions into the text. [[User:John Vandenberg|John Vandenberg]] 02:50, 17 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::Thanks, John. I'll browse around. --[[User:Anthonyhcole|Anthonyhcole]] 14:39, 17 November 2012 (EST)<br />
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== Proposal page vs talk page ==<br />
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John, I realise that the proposal page for WLM not has [[Proposal:WLM_2013#Budget|a thread]] on it like a talk page ... my fault. Should most of that thread be moved to the talk page overleaf? [[User:Tony1|Tony1]] 19:10, 11 December 2012 (EST)<br />
:I dont think it matters much. Discussion anywhere is good. When the proposal is ready for voting, it will need to be cleaned up a bit, but the discussion would still be available in the history. 17:31, 12 December 2012 (EST)<br />
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== Query ==<br />
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Nice new pic, John!<br />
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User:Moondyne has replied affirmatively to my email from a few weeks ago about becoming involved in WLM—either as contributor, advisor, or judge—if the chapter decides to participate in 2013. I don't think s/he is a member, and the question was, what's the next move. I presume Moondyne can't post on this site unless a member? [[User:Tony1|Tony1]] 01:09, 31 December 2012 (EST)<br />
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:Fantastic. Even if not a member, Moondyne can request an account on this wiki using [[special:RequestAccount]], which will enable them to edit talk pages like [[Proposal_talk:WLM_2013]], and edit unrestricted in userspace.<br />
:I have added a note to this effect at the top of all proposals (see [http://www.wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=Template:Proposal&diff=8789&oldid=8647])<br />
:What next? Keep editing the proposal and the proposal discussion page. [[User:John Vandenberg|John Vandenberg]] 01:44, 31 December 2012 (EST)<br />
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== Medicine outreach ==<br />
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Hi John.<br />
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I'm not sure if I mentioned I'm on the board of [[m:Wiki Med]]. Our president, [[w:User:Jmh649|James]], has offered to fund a trip to Australia to talk about editing Wikipedia at medical schools, if something can be lined up. I notice there is a fair bit of outreach happening at some eastern states universities. Would you be able to recommend a Wikipedian I could talk to about this, who could possibly offer guidance or help? James has done a lot of this in North America, Europe and South Asia. --[[User:Anthonyhcole|Anthonyhcole]] 16:22, 1 January 2013 (EST)<br />
:[[user:leighblackall]] is responsible for [[Proposal:Bendigo health information workshops 2013]] (see also the talk page)<br />
:[[w:user:casliber]] in Sydney was involved in a paper co-authored with James a while back on the topic. [[User:John Vandenberg|John Vandenberg]] 14:46, 3 January 2013 (EST)<br />
::Hi John. I've pulled out of the Sydney symposium because I don't have enough relevant experience in higher education outrach to justify it. I will however be attending a symposium that Leigh is organising for next week at La Trobe<sup> [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Open_Education_Week_2013/La_Trobe_University_Open_Conference]</sup> and I hope to open a discussion about medical school outreach with him there. --[[User:Anthonyhcole|Anthonyhcole]] 19:49, 7 March 2013 (EST)<br />
:::Glad to hear you're going to catch up with Leigh in La Trobe. Please consider running a similar health information workshop over in Perth. Leigh may be able to facilitate the first Perth workshop, so that you and other Perth people can run similar (or better! ;-) workshops thereafter. [[User:John Vandenberg|John Vandenberg]] 08:19, 10 March 2013 (EST)<br />
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== FYI ==<br />
http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/User:SatuSuro/Wheatbelt_Project - trust the other issue is resolved - ie - you got the money in the end - I never heard back from you [[User:SatuSuro|SatuSuro]] ([[User talk:SatuSuro|talk]]) 15:05, 20 July 2013 (EST)<br />
:It has now appeared in our accounting system, but with a date of 8 July. Quite odd; anyway, I am processing it now. [[User:John Vandenberg|John Vandenberg]] ([[User talk:John Vandenberg|talk]]) 12:56, 21 July 2013 (EST)</div>John Vandenberg