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18:10 <jayvdb> hi Bduke, the log of the meeting so far is up: http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/Meeting:Public_%282013-03-03%29/Transcript | |||
18:11 <Lankiveil> sorry for nonresponsiveness, my dog is enjoying being inside out of the rain | |||
18:11 <Steven_Zhang> hi brian | |||
18:16 <Bduke> Hi all, I have just got home and I am pretty busy but will keep a watching eye on the discussion | |||
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18:24 <jayvdb> hi russavia | |||
18:24 <jayvdb> we have 30 mins to go for our usual meeting period. the log of the meeting so far is up: http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/Meeting:Public_%282013-03-03%29/Transcript | |||
18:36 <lankiveilmob> Looks like a quiet one. | |||
18:36 <lankiveilmob> Would people like a notice a few days in advance of this meeting? | |||
18:37 <Peter_> always helps us elderly folk | |||
18:39 <jayvdb> would anyone like to second the quarterly board meetings proposal? http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/User:John_Vandenberg/Quarterly_board_meetings Or, questions/comments/etc? | |||
18:43 <lankiveilmob> Peter_: would probably help me too! | |||
18:43 <russavia> heya jayvdb et al | |||
18:43 <Peter_> :) | |||
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18:47 <Anthonyhcole> I'd like to learn about this community; its history, especially its social and political history: controversies, significant corporate and policy changes over time. Can someone recommend some reading? | |||
18:48 <Bduke> Ah, that could be opening a can of worms, Anthony. Seriously some stuff is on the web site. | |||
18:49 <Anthonyhcole> Link? | |||
18:50 <jayvdb> http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/Meetings is the best spot to start | |||
18:50 <lankiveilmob> A giant can of worms! | |||
18:51 <lankiveilmob> And mostly not that interesting tbh | |||
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18:52 <Anthonyhcole> I'm interested. | |||
18:52 <p858snake|l> Someone really should get to updating that mediawiki install one day | |||
18:53 <lankiveilmob> the WMAU wiki? | |||
18:53 <p858snake|l> yes | |||
18:54 <lankiveilmob> It's 1.18 | |||
18:55 <lankiveilmob> I think mediawiki is at 1.20 now ( | |||
18:55 <Lankiveil> okay, back on my PC | |||
18:55 <Lankiveil> yeah, it's two versions behind | |||
18:56 <Lankiveil> or do you just want the "Vector" skin? | |||
18:57 <Anthonyhcole> Thanks jayvdb. Are there any user- or project-talk page discussions you think I should be aware of? | |||
18:58 <Lankiveil> Anthonycole: http://www.wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=Committee#History_of_the_committee is probably also relevant | |||
18:58 <Lankiveil> someone probably ought to write an "official" history at some point | |||
18:58 <p858snake|l> Lankiveil: there is a reason new versions are released ;) | |||
19:00 <Lankiveil> true | |||
19:01 <Lankiveil> its probably a good idea to do minor upgrades now rather than major ones later | |||
19:01 <jayvdb> p858snake|l: are you offering? ;-) | |||
19:02 <p858snake|l> I've never done a "live" update | |||
19:02 <Lankiveil> EOL for 1.18 was November 2012 | |||
19:02 <p858snake|l> but you never remember anything like your first time | |||
19:02 <jayvdb> I dont do live updates. I put the wiki into readonly mode and proceed. | |||
19:03 <Lankiveil> 1.19 is a long term support to mid 2015 tho | |||
19:03 <Anthonyhcole> Thanks Lankiveil. That's quite a turnover. | |||
19:03 <p858snake|l> jayvdb: i referring to the whole upgrade process ever | |||
19:05 <jayvdb> Anthonyhcole: no, there isnt many recent comments on the wiki | |||
19:06 <jayvdb> ok, the two hour meeting is over. Thanks everyone for coming | |||
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Latest revision as of 08:08, 3 March 2013
17:02 <jayvdb> yea, we're starting about now 17:02 <Anthonyhcole> Hi all.I'm in Perth, mostly edit medical content. On an Android device which is hell, so will probably just lurk. 17:02 <jayvdb> hi Anthonyhcole 17:02 <jayvdb> glad you could make it 17:03 <Steven_Zhang> though im driving here 17:03 <jayvdb> you're driving? 17:03 <Steven_Zhang> not at this moment 17:03 <jayvdb> ah, phew 17:03 <Steven_Zhang> but its real confusing 17:03 <lankiveilmob> jayvdb: aye. Steak and beer for lunch :-) 17:03 <jayvdb> hehe 17:04 <Steven_Zhang> i am pushing an empty pram onehanded tho 17:04 <jayvdb> true dedication guys 17:05 <lankiveilmob> Saturday night in IRC, you party animal you 17:05 <Steven_Zhang> lol 17:05 <jayvdb> with a pram 17:05 -!- Graham87 [~BluFudge@...jazi.net] has joined #wikimedia-au 17:06 <Graham87> hi all 17:06 <Steven_Zhang> you know me, im a hardcore party animal. 17:06 <Steven_Zhang> lol 17:07 <Steven_Zhang> so...should we discuss fdc? 17:07 <lankiveilmob> Hi Graham 17:07 <Steven_Zhang> as an initial topic 17:08 <jayvdb> ok, well the big news is that we wont be requesting funding from FDC. Two reasons. 1. we found out that if we apply for funding in round 2, we ccould not apply for round 1 next time. We found this out only very recently. this has a very large impact as it means we needed to put forward a 12 month plan from June-July, whereas our Annual Plan was a calendar year 17:09 <jayvdb> the second reasons was that the organisation has written up the concepts agreed upon in the January F2F meeting. 17:10 <jayvdb> we were supposed to have a revised annual plan to the members in mid Feb, and that hasnt been done yet. 17:11 <lankiveilmob> :-/ 17:11 <jayvdb> The good news is that we can apply for a grant from the Wikimedia Foundation, to fill the gap between now and the next FDC round 1 17:12 <Anthonyhcole> F2F? 17:12 <Steven_Zhang> a lot has come up that has made it hard to get in time 17:12 <jayvdb> face-to-face 17:12 <Steven_Zhang> facw to face 17:13 -!- Peter_ [~chatzilla@...iinet.net.au] has joined #wikimedia-au 17:14 <Steven_Zhang> mind if i chime in here john? 17:14 <jayvdb> the other piece of good news was that the ALIA conference went well, and the World War I GLAM concept is looking like it will be successful 17:14 <jayvdb> i.e. http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Proposal:WWI_WiR 17:15 <jayvdb> sure Steven 17:15 -!- Kerry [9587912c@gateway/web/freenode/ip...] has joined #wikimedia-au 17:15 -!- Kerry [9587912c@gateway/web/freenode/ip...] has quit [Client Quit] 17:16 <jayvdb> We have about 16 applicants, and about 10 GLAMs from across most of the country are 'keen' 17:16 -!- Kerry [9587912c@gateway/web/freenode/ip...] has joined #wikimedia-au 17:16 <Steven_Zhang> re: grants - i was at the WMF office last week and had a chat to the relevant folk about a potential application, because traditionally large grants (like we would have asked for) arent within the norms of the grants process 17:17 <Steven_Zhang> its normally below the 10k mark 17:17 <Steven_Zhang> after the chat i had, we have a better idea on what we can/cant use the money for, and how much we can seek 17:18 <Steven_Zhang> so the sky wont be falling due to us not progressing with rnd 2 17:18 <Steven_Zhang> :) 17:19 <Steven_Zhang> we as a committee have a plan going forward 17:19 <Steven_Zhang> </input> 17:19 <Steven_Zhang> (theres not many here is there?) 17:20 <Steven_Zhang> hm 17:21 <lankiveilmob> The Steve 17:22 <lankiveilmob> Erm, thx 17:22 <Peter_> and me listening...well watching 17:25 <jayvdb> How did your workshop go Peter_ ? 17:25 <Peter_> I think it went pretty well 17:26 <Steven_Zhang> oh yeah how was that? 17:26 <jayvdb> https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_training_day,_Bendigo_Victoria 17:26 <Peter_> We got through everything on the plan and quite a few of the participants have continued editing since then 17:27 <Peter_> The group was very interested and did not need to be sold on the benefits. Leigh had done a good job beforehand 17:29 <jayvdb> there are four unaffiliated people in the Participants section; were they all health professionals 17:30 <jayvdb> ? 17:31 <Peter_> Bendigo Community Health 17:31 -!- Lankiveil [~Lankiveil@....tpgi.com.au] has joined #wikimedia-au 17:31 <Peter_> there were a couple of podiatrists 17:32 <Lankiveil> got sick of tapping out responses on my phone :) 17:32 <Peter_> there are some disgusting toe images on Commons 17:33 <Steven_Zhang> of all the disgusting images in commons.... 17:33 <Lankiveil> there are lots of gross medical images on there 17:33 <Steven_Zhang> Lankiveil, i dont have a choice, laptop is at home :( 17:33 <Peter_> I'd nvere want to be a podiatrist 17:33 <Steven_Zhang> and gross non-medical images 17:34 <Lankiveil> well yes, but the medical ones are the worst in my opinion :( 17:35 <Lankiveil> this is why I don't do workshops with medical folk 17:35 <Lankiveil> the subject matter makes me too queasy 17:36 <Peter_> we had a few laughs 17:37 <Peter_> Leigh is keen to set up a few more 17:37 <Anthonyhcole> Will you be doing more medically-oriented workshops, Peter? 17:37 <jayvdb> Anthonyhcole: would you be able to run one in Perth if given similar support from WMAu? 17:38 <jayvdb> Leigh might be keen to go to Perth to help 17:39 <Peter_> He had it all set up, I could just walk in and start talking 17:39 -!- Steven_Zhang [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:39 <Anthonyhcole> I was thinking I'd like to attend a couple before taking on one myself. I'd be happy to travel east. 17:40 <Lankiveil> I think it's best for people to attend at least one as a "helper" before taking the lead themselves 17:40 <jayvdb> Anthonyhcole: could you attend http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Proposal:2013_Wikimedia_in_higher_education_symposium ? 17:42 -!- Steven_Zhang [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has joined #wikimedia-au 17:42 <jayvdb> 5 April 17:44 <Anthonyhcole> Yes, I can make that. (Doc James, who has done a lot of medical outreach at WHO, NIHS, and many campuses has said he'd love to do a tour downunder.) 17:44 -!- Shudde [3cf0f28e@gateway/web/freenode/ip....] has joined #wikimedia-au 17:47 <jayvdb> the registration link is here http://sydney.edu.au/arts/teaching_learning/writing_hub/events.shtml 17:48 <jayvdb> ignore the 'registration closes 28 March' 17:48 <Anthonyhcole> Great. I'll sign up. I should point out I'm in the board of http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiProject_Med and James is our chair. 17:48 <jayvdb> I dont see where they are accepting requests for travel assistance 17:49 <Kerry> Think only on the Wu proposal 17:50 <Kerry> WMAU 17:50 <Steven_Zhang> hi kerry 17:50 <Anthonyhcole> I'd appreciate travel assistabce, but can make it on my own if that's not an option. 17:50 <Kerry> Already used my 6 ours keyboard use today 17:51 <jayvdb> I guess people seeking travel assistance should just email frances.dilauro@sydney.edu.au and cc: kerry.raymond@gmail.com ;-) 17:51 <Anthonyhcole> Cool. 17:51 <Kerry> Yes 17:52 <Lankiveil> hi Kerry, please don't overdo your keyboard use on our account 17:52 <Kerry> Cheating on the iPad :-( 17:53 -!- Steven_Zhang [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:54 <jayvdb> recently this proposal was updated to reflect the committee decision in January : http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Proposal:Wikimedia_Australia_Meetups 17:54 <jayvdb> feedback would be good 17:55 -!- Steven_Zhang [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has joined #wikimedia-au 17:56 <Steven_Zhang> i feel so disconnected from technology 17:57 <Lankiveil> when do you get back to Australia, Steve? 17:58 <jayvdb> Complementing that, at the January board meeting we also thought it would be good to continue face-to-face board meetings, but that it needed to have extra value, so a rough proposal to have the board go to different locations each quarter is put forward: http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/User:John_Vandenberg/Quarterly_board_meetings 17:58 <Steven_Zhang> arrive march 6: 17:58 <Steven_Zhang> ive had bad access to data and no wifi in hawaii 17:59 <Steven_Zhang> made things difficult :/ 18:01 <Steven_Zhang> but the proposal makes sense 18:03 <jayvdb> Another decision at the January meeting was to start using a contracting model. The following is the rough concept but some aspects, like the makeup of outsourcing committee, were never discussed: http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/User:John_Vandenberg/Contracting 18:05 -!- Steven_Zhang [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:05 <jayvdb> Kerry: I've added disclose of WMAu membership (just now) 18:05 -!- Shudde [3cf0f28e@gateway/web/freenode/ip...] has left #wikimedia-au 18:06 -!- Steven_Zhang [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has joined #wikimedia-au 18:06 -!- Bduke [~chatzilla@...] has joined #wikimedia-au 18:10 <jayvdb> hi Bduke, the log of the meeting so far is up: http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/Meeting:Public_%282013-03-03%29/Transcript 18:11 <Lankiveil> sorry for nonresponsiveness, my dog is enjoying being inside out of the rain 18:11 <Steven_Zhang> hi brian 18:16 <Bduke> Hi all, I have just got home and I am pretty busy but will keep a watching eye on the discussion 18:16 -!- Steven_Zhang [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:16 -!- russavia [~russavia@wikimedia/Russavia] has joined #wikimedia-au 18:17 -!- Steven_Zhang [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has joined #wikimedia-au 18:21 -!- Steven_Zhang [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:24 <jayvdb> hi russavia 18:24 <jayvdb> we have 30 mins to go for our usual meeting period. the log of the meeting so far is up: http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/Meeting:Public_%282013-03-03%29/Transcript 18:36 <lankiveilmob> Looks like a quiet one. 18:36 <lankiveilmob> Would people like a notice a few days in advance of this meeting? 18:37 <Peter_> always helps us elderly folk 18:39 <jayvdb> would anyone like to second the quarterly board meetings proposal? http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/User:John_Vandenberg/Quarterly_board_meetings Or, questions/comments/etc? 18:43 <lankiveilmob> Peter_: would probably help me too! 18:43 <russavia> heya jayvdb et al 18:43 <Peter_> :) 18:46 -!- russavia [~russavia@wikimedia/Russavia] has left #wikimedia-au 18:47 <Anthonyhcole> I'd like to learn about this community; its history, especially its social and political history: controversies, significant corporate and policy changes over time. Can someone recommend some reading? 18:48 <Bduke> Ah, that could be opening a can of worms, Anthony. Seriously some stuff is on the web site. 18:49 <Anthonyhcole> Link? 18:50 <jayvdb> http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/Meetings is the best spot to start 18:50 <lankiveilmob> A giant can of worms! 18:51 <lankiveilmob> And mostly not that interesting tbh 18:51 -!- Kerry [9587912c@gateway/web/freenode/ip....] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:52 <Anthonyhcole> I'm interested. 18:52 <p858snake|l> Someone really should get to updating that mediawiki install one day 18:53 <lankiveilmob> the WMAU wiki? 18:53 <p858snake|l> yes 18:54 <lankiveilmob> It's 1.18 18:55 <lankiveilmob> I think mediawiki is at 1.20 now ( 18:55 <Lankiveil> okay, back on my PC 18:55 <Lankiveil> yeah, it's two versions behind 18:56 <Lankiveil> or do you just want the "Vector" skin? 18:57 <Anthonyhcole> Thanks jayvdb. Are there any user- or project-talk page discussions you think I should be aware of? 18:58 <Lankiveil> Anthonycole: http://www.wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=Committee#History_of_the_committee is probably also relevant 18:58 <Lankiveil> someone probably ought to write an "official" history at some point 18:58 <p858snake|l> Lankiveil: there is a reason new versions are released ;) 19:00 <Lankiveil> true 19:01 <Lankiveil> its probably a good idea to do minor upgrades now rather than major ones later 19:01 <jayvdb> p858snake|l: are you offering? ;-) 19:02 <p858snake|l> I've never done a "live" update 19:02 <Lankiveil> EOL for 1.18 was November 2012 19:02 <p858snake|l> but you never remember anything like your first time 19:02 <jayvdb> I dont do live updates. I put the wiki into readonly mode and proceed. 19:03 <Lankiveil> 1.19 is a long term support to mid 2015 tho 19:03 <Anthonyhcole> Thanks Lankiveil. That's quite a turnover. 19:03 <p858snake|l> jayvdb: i referring to the whole upgrade process ever 19:05 <jayvdb> Anthonyhcole: no, there isnt many recent comments on the wiki 19:06 <jayvdb> ok, the two hour meeting is over. Thanks everyone for coming