Talk: Education projects

Revision as of 04:35, 18 June 2010

I'm hoping to get my hands on some of the bookshelf materials presently - I'll link / bring them over here for further work when I get the chance (unless someone beats me to it :-) - Privatemusings 13:46, 30 April 2010 (EST)

WMF projects in schools

per my comment over on the outreach wiki I think it's going to be important to communicate clearly the nature of some of the more explicit and 'edgy' material currently on wiki commons particularly as part of encouragement for schools to engage with wmf projects. In short, I could not currently support open access to wmf projects in schools, and my (limited) experience of discussing the matter with teachers and others involved in education is that many people are largely unaware of the nature of the available media, and can't support open access either at this time.

Hopefully we, as a chapter, can have a fruitful discussion about this - I think there are some ways forward which may involve the Schools' Wikipedia (great in some ways, not so cool in others) - or hopefully we can show some good 'old australian ingenuity and come up with a world-leading solution to allow schools to learn from the wikis without compromising what they feel is their duty of care to pupils.... more anon....cheers, Privatemusings 13:58, 30 April 2010 (EST)

A quote I found interesting from Larry Sanger was removed, then a link I dropped in was also removed, on the basis that 'it's a personal opinion, not info.' - I'm not sure of the basis Andrew is making these decisions, and would prefer that we did less comment removal, and more discussion :-) - The quote directly relates to Education projects, discussing whether or not it's appropriate for WMF, or in this neck of the woods, WMAU, to undertake outreach work to school age folk.

Regardless of Larry's opinions however, and per the above, I continue to have significant misgivings about the nature of outreach to schools, or any organisation which may support minors' access to all WMF material. I intend to write up some of my concerns in a very brief note on the main page - thoughts? Privatemusings 14:35, 18 June 2010 (EST)

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 Hopefully we, as a chapter, can have a fruitful discussion about this - I think there are some ways forward which may involve the [http://schools-wikipedia.org/ Schools' Wikipedia] (great in some ways, not so cool in others) - or hopefully we can show some good 'old australian ingenuity and come up with a world-leading solution to allow schools to learn from the wikis without compromising what they feel is their duty of care to pupils.... more anon....cheers, [[User:Privatemusings|Privatemusings]] 13:58, 30 April 2010 (EST)
+:A quote I found interesting from [[w:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] was removed, then a link I dropped in was also removed, on the basis that '[http://www.wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=Talk:Education_projects&curid=425&diff=2485&oldid=2475 it's a personal opinion, not info].' - I'm not sure of the basis Andrew is making these decisions, and would prefer that we did less comment removal, and more discussion :-) - The quote directly relates to Education projects, discussing whether or not it's appropriate for WMF, or in this neck of the woods, WMAU, to undertake outreach work to school age folk.
+:Regardless of Larry's opinions however, and per the above, I continue to have significant misgivings about the nature of outreach to schools, or any organisation which may support minors' access to all WMF material. I intend to write up some of my concerns in a very brief note on the main page - thoughts? [[User:Privatemusings|Privatemusings]] 14:35, 18 June 2010 (EST)