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very belated I'm sure - but hey, you got married! Congrat.s and mebbe see you around :-) Privatemusings 14:51, 2 October 2012 (EST)

Thanks! ;-) John Vandenberg 15:19, 2 October 2012 (EST)


I have literally paid my dues. Hows about that - fyi Privatemusings 16:09, 9 October 2012 (EST)


Hi John. Any thoughts you might have (or discussions you might point to) about COI bylaws would be very welcome. And if you can provide diffs that will give me a background for this chapter, that would be much appreciated, too. --Anthonyhcole 01:51, 17 November 2012 (EST)

Hi Anthony, it is great to see you here. See the last paragraph of Proposal:Conflict of interest policy, and my comments at Talk:Conflict of interest policy. I am also quite impressed with where WMUK is going - they have a more active community of people pushing for greater disclosure and less AGF, which is resulting in greater transparency. (I wish I could import a few of these people to help us write our COI policy and guidelines.)
Background .. hmm ..
The organisation has two meetings each month. On the first Sunday we have a public IRC meeting, with the transcript published. On the third Sunday the committee has a private IRC meeting, and the minutes are published on the public wiki. I try to ensure that the committee minutes are published before the following public IRC meeting, but that's not always been possible.
We started the organisation with this wiki as editable by members only, and a private mailing list. In 2010-11 we established a proposals process, re-licensed the wiki, and opened it for non-member participation. The private mailing list has had its positives and negatives; the main negative is that participation in the public Australian mailing list has dropped significantly.
We received quite a large amount of donations and good-will from Australians in the 2010 Fundraiser. We have been quite conservative about spending the money, slowly developing innovative programs and carefully selecting the content projects and partners in order to strategically focus our effort and funds.
The 2012 AGM is just around the corner. Non-members are welcome to attend and contribute. If you are interested in a physical meeting, mention your interest and location at 2012 AGM. We'll announce details regarding pyjama attendance (IRC/teleconference) shortly.
The most important item at the AGM will be the 2013 Annual Plan. Nobody has commented publicly about it because the feedback tends to be given on the private mailing list (see problem mentioned above). Perhaps you could be the first to provide public feedback. Any member can edit the annual plan before the AGM; as a non-member you will need to suggest edits on the talk page and hope a member integrates your suggestions into the text. John Vandenberg 02:50, 17 November 2012 (EST)
Thanks, John. I'll browse around. --Anthonyhcole 14:39, 17 November 2012 (EST)

Proposal page vs talk page

John, I realise that the proposal page for WLM not has a thread on it like a talk page ... my fault. Should most of that thread be moved to the talk page overleaf? Tony1 19:10, 11 December 2012 (EST)

I dont think it matters much. Discussion anywhere is good. When the proposal is ready for voting, it will need to be cleaned up a bit, but the discussion would still be available in the history. 17:31, 12 December 2012 (EST)


Nice new pic, John!

User:Moondyne has replied affirmatively to my email from a few weeks ago about becoming involved in WLM—either as contributor, advisor, or judge—if the chapter decides to participate in 2013. I don't think s/he is a member, and the question was, what's the next move. I presume Moondyne can't post on this site unless a member? Tony1 01:09, 31 December 2012 (EST)

Fantastic. Even if not a member, Moondyne can request an account on this wiki using special:RequestAccount, which will enable them to edit talk pages like Proposal_talk:WLM_2013, and edit unrestricted in userspace.
I have added a note to this effect at the top of all proposals (see [1])
What next? Keep editing the proposal and the proposal discussion page. John Vandenberg 01:44, 31 December 2012 (EST)

Medicine outreach

Hi John.

I'm not sure if I mentioned I'm on the board of m:Wiki Med. Our president, James, has offered to fund a trip to Australia to talk about editing Wikipedia at medical schools, if something can be lined up. I notice there is a fair bit of outreach happening at some eastern states universities. Would you be able to recommend a Wikipedian I could talk to about this, who could possibly offer guidance or help? James has done a lot of this in North America, Europe and South Asia. --Anthonyhcole 16:22, 1 January 2013 (EST)

user:leighblackall is responsible for Proposal:Bendigo health information workshops 2013 (see also the talk page)
w:user:casliber in Sydney was involved in a paper co-authored with James a while back on the topic. John Vandenberg 14:46, 3 January 2013 (EST)
Hi John. I've pulled out of the Sydney symposium because I don't have enough relevant experience in higher education outrach to justify it. I will however be attending a symposium that Leigh is organising for next week at La Trobe [2] and I hope to open a discussion about medical school outreach with him there. --Anthonyhcole 19:49, 7 March 2013 (EST)
Glad to hear you're going to catch up with Leigh in La Trobe. Please consider running a similar health information workshop over in Perth. Leigh may be able to facilitate the first Perth workshop, so that you and other Perth people can run similar (or better! ;-) workshops thereafter. John Vandenberg 08:19, 10 March 2013 (EST)

FYI - trust the other issue is resolved - ie - you got the money in the end - I never heard back from you SatuSuro (talk) 15:05, 20 July 2013 (EST)

It has now appeared in our accounting system, but with a date of 8 July. Quite odd; anyway, I am processing it now. John Vandenberg (talk) 12:56, 21 July 2013 (EST)
thanks SatuSuro (talk) 17:40, 28 July 2013 (EST)